LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Planes, Lines, and Words Thread: Planes, Lines, and Words View Single Post #9 02-05-2005, 03:26 PM Jim.Cook Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Agawam, Massachusetts Posts: 82 Re: Planes, Lines, and Words [quote="rwh I e-mailed Tom Wishon about this and he disagreed with Chuck’s statement; his reply was that the hosel is vertical when the club is soled at it's designed loft. Most irons today have 4-way cambered soles. Are you sure the club is level from front to back when it is clamped in the loft/lie machine?[/quote] When I'm taking the loft, lie and other measurements the club is not in my loft/lie machine. While I can measure in that machine I use another device to do the measuring. I do this because the lof/lie machine can take a beating where as the other machine is ONLY used for measuring. Tom's discription is an accurate description of the club orentation in my machine. Jim.Cook View Public Profile Send a private message to Jim.Cook Find all posts by Jim.Cook