[Martee]

Ah icic what this is all about now....

Was making me crazy for a bit over here....seemed like it was too much for me to read when I'm all tired...

So.....if you trace with the Clubshaft (i.e. keep the clubshaft pointing at the Plane Line)....TECHNICALLY, you'll hit it off the hosel....technically....

So either you trace just inside the Plane Line with it (the clubshaft)......or you trace with the (invisible, completely feel-based) Sweetspot Plane (if you connect a line between PP#3 [I assume it's PP#3] and the sweetspot of the clubface).

I get it.

TECHNICALLY NO... The plane line is defined as the base line at the Inclined Plane (where bottom of the plane where it comes into contact with the ground). Look at 10-5 pictures, the lines and the clubhead. If you hit the ball off the hosel by tracing the Plane Line, then you have a bent Plane Line.

Your feel description has merit IMO for BUT if you were to draw lines on photo or vid to analyze the golf swing, this won't fly.

There have been several threads over the past year regarding exercises and drills as well as what Homer wrote regarding how to test for being On Plane. In the latter, Homer using the Club Shaft as well as he did with his plane board and descriptions of the clubshaft against the plane. All of this is the clubshaft plane defined at Impact. The exercises were what really tossed me for a loop. Clearly Yoda taking the Dowel and spear fishing from the top showing the deliver line, or Chuck with his golf ball thrown at the ball. It does show the concept but incorrectly. It should not hit the ball but hit to the inside of the ball as what they are demonstrating is the travel of the golf shaft to the plane line, the club face sit to the outside of the club shaft. They demonstrated a bent plane line and if the club was deliver as such, it would have in fact been a hosel hit.

My understanding does confirm Homer's points. The descriptions and instruction being given if applied to analysis is incorrect. This is Feel vs Mechanics, analysisis mechanics.

Sorry for the rambling length, but blind acceptance or misunderstnading is something that just didn't fly with me on this topic.