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And this:

Nope.

The ball has NO IDEA about "plane lines" or "plane angles," just the PATH the clubhead makes through the ball.

And, by path, I mean up and down AND out and in.

So...in your example, the clubhead would still be moving OUT and the ball would respond to the effects of PATH vs. clubface.

Mr. Kelly did his best, but, on this one, he whiffed.

I have no issue with new information. My issue is the authority with which Dr. Z's sychophants pontificate. Of course, copies of the summit (and Dr. Z's information) are only made available to AIs (as far as I know)so we will have to take their word for it! Ah the potential of new information held by a select few! I do not eliminate the possibility of Mr. Kelley being off a bit here and there, though I do not think it probable based on information from ONE TGM summit. I have noticed the tendency of many golf instructors to seek new information, which is then translated into their own vernacular for marketing purposes. I think we should debunk points of Mr. Kelley's work in a more organized and open fashion, don't you think? Who is reading over Dr. Z's shoulder?

Merry Christmas!