LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Clubface Control Thread: Clubface Control View Single Post #13 09-22-2008, 04:36 PM 12 piece bucket Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Thomasville, NC Posts: 4,380 Originally Posted by okie One thing that has made a HUGE difference in my chipping/pitching is rather than opening the face at address moving the handle back and laying the face back. That really sets you up with a major bent left wrist. Then I just rotate my stance left until I have an in-line relationship. The ball still thinks the shaft is vertical and the face is laid back . .. .but to me it looks like shaft lean based on my stance. good stuff! Good example of geometric v. visual FLW, right? Sorta . . . . Try this . . . . set the club up square . . move the handle back so the face lays down (basically lay it back) . .. the shaft will be vertical or even more back than verticle to the ground. So your not really "opening the face" as much as you are LAYING IT BACK. Notice how your left wrist is bent . . . . now just open up your stance until it FLATTENS out your left wrist and the club is in-line with your left arm. So the ball gets "Bucket's shaft is vertical to the ground . .. I'd better go up in the air and land soft." But Bucket's eyes get "dude you have the package . . . sorry power package in an inline condition." I just can't do throwaway. This is essentially like throwaway without losing your alignments. HennyBogan helped me figure this deal out . . . . __________________ Aloha Mr. Hand Behold my hands; reach hither thy hand 12 piece bucket View Public Profile Send a private message to 12 piece bucket Find all posts by 12 piece bucket