Keeping The Power Package Out In Front of You

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Old 06-14-2010, 10:53 AM
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Keeping The Power Package Out In Front of You
I have trouble letting my arms get behind me, resulting in getting stuck, being unable to 'swing left'... finishing with my arms/club too high, etc... occasionally hooking the ball off the face of the world - that kind of thing.

Not surprisingly, extensor action is a struggle for me, with a right arm that likes to bend too much, and a left arm that follows suit.

Any advice, concepts, drills and/or psychotherapy on how to keep the power package in front of me would be most appreciated. I know extensor action is the key, but I seem to need help implementing it.
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Old 06-14-2010, 11:19 AM
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Andy,
I've been there and continue the struggle to escape getting stuck behind and under. It has to be the polio of golf.
Your reference to extensor action is the beginning of the cure. Daryl, EdZ, O.B., KevCarter and many others will hopefully chime in very shortly.
Part of the problem may also be attributed to bowing and rolling the left wrist as you take the club back. That stupid move will influence the move to go back and in rather than up and in. I believe the bowing is a precursor to getting it too inside. Instead of that move focus on the cocking in the Snoose Box and make sure that is operating instead of the left wrist bowing. Cocking the wrist up in the move back will, in my opinion, influence you to take the club up instead of in. The right hand, in the act of extensor action, will help with these new feels and you will be on your way. Practice very slowly for lots of reps and don't bother with a ball until you are at a point where you think it is feeling more natural.
Now, because this is my bane as well, I cannot wait for the other folks to chime in.

Last edited by JerryG : 06-14-2010 at 11:43 AM. Reason: I needed to chang "hinging" to "cocking" a couple times. I'm such a dummy
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Old 06-14-2010, 11:45 AM
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One other thing, Andy, go to City's thread on how he found the magic of the vertically uncocking left wrist. Lots of good stuff there as well.
Heck, anywhere you go on this site will get you started. Just dig in.
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Old 06-14-2010, 12:52 PM
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My GSEB has shown me the "insurance" of an elevated left wrist.
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One other thing, Andy, go to City's thread on how he found the magic of the vertically uncocking left wrist. Lots of good stuff there as well.
Heck, anywhere you go on this site will get you started. Just dig in.
This is how I have been doing it. (John Savage GSEB, Ben Doyle pupil in the past, just shows me where I have to go and leaves the head descriptions to me.) Before I roll back my non-artificial hip, I use my left hand grip to initiate the machine by turning my impact fix grip (left hand knuckles) down about an inch giving me a bit of a closed club face. It feels like the downturn and right wrist bend happen together. My club grips are very large, though, so you will have to experiment. I hit my version of a horizontal hinge often.

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Old 06-14-2010, 01:39 PM
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I have trouble letting my arms get behind me, resulting in getting stuck, being unable to 'swing left'... finishing with my arms/club too high, etc... occasionally hooking the ball off the face of the world - that kind of thing.

Not surprisingly, extensor action is a struggle for me, with a right arm that likes to bend too much, and a left arm that follows suit.

Any advice, concepts, drills and/or psychotherapy on how to keep the power package in front of me would be most appreciated. I know extensor action is the key, but I seem to need help implementing it.
1. How's your pivot? Is your head raising up through the ball are coming back and away from the plane line?

2. Get one of them long 12 pack boxes and put some balls in it to weight it down . . .then stick some more on the outside of it to make an "inverted" plane . . . put it out there so you have to dodge it.

you probably got some kinda pivot issue that is shooting your arms off your body.
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Old 06-14-2010, 01:46 PM
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Good post Bucket. Yup, slidin' instead of turnin', I'll bet. I did.
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Old 06-14-2010, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket View Post
1. How's your pivot?
Not bad. I took a swing in the backyard to give you a general idea - although there is no ball, of course. Here's a link to a zip file of a WMV. Click for zip file

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you probably got some kinda pivot issue that is shooting your arms off your body.
No doubt. When the pressure is on and/or my legs and back are tired/weak (I walk) my body stops and my arms keep going - it ain't pretty....
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Old 06-14-2010, 02:39 PM
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Not bad. I took a swing in the backyard to give you a general idea - although there is no ball, of course. Here's a link to a zip file of a WMV. Click for zip file



No doubt. When the pressure is on and/or my legs and back are tired/weak (I walk) my body stops and my arms keep going - it ain't pretty....

Andy, you've got some really great Power Package stuff going on there.

Your Pivot Lag sucks and you have almost no Hip Action. But your Power Package is so great that you're getting away with it.

Your Pivot isn't helping. The Motion is ok but the lack of Lag is killing you.

I bet you struggle with long clubs but you can't miss a green from 150 yards in.

just my two cents.

And your Steady head and Shoulder turn is great.
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Old 06-14-2010, 02:58 PM
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I bet you struggle with long clubs but you can't miss a green from 150 yards in.
Exactly right. My distance is decent - about 240-250 on the fly with a driver - but I lack accuracy/consistency. I injured my back (sacroiliac joint) 20 years ago, and am prone to back pain if I'm not careful. This probably explains the faulty pivot.

I remember Yoda saying somewhere that he was prone to back pain until he learnt how to pivot properly. Maybe that's where my focus should be? Any help/drills etc would be greatly appreciated!
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Old 06-14-2010, 03:04 PM
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Exactly right. My distance is decent - about 240-250 on the fly with a driver - but I lack accuracy/consistency. I injured my back (sacroiliac joint) 20 years ago, and am prone to back pain if I'm not careful. This probably explains the faulty pivot.

I remember Yoda saying somewhere that he was prone to back pain until he learnt how to pivot properly. Maybe that's where my focus should be? Any help/drills etc would be greatly appreciated!

I don't think that your pivot is faulty. It's just not leading. That will change everything for you.
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