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Old 02-20-2011, 09:28 AM
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The hip bump etc
http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...layed+hip+turn #2

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=2463

The 'bump' is a Hip Slide with a Delayed Turn. Its purpose is to Shift the Weight and tilt the Spine -- the Axis for the On Plane Downstroke Shoulder Turn. Prior to the Downstroke Hip Turn, the Slide should be parallel to the selected Delivery Line, i.e., the true Geometric Plane Line (Swingers and Hitters) or the Angle of Approach (Hitters only) [7-12].

Both the Hip and Shoulder Turns are the result of the intent to Drive the Hands Down Plane (toward the Ball).

The Delayed Turn clears the Right Hip prior to or during the Start Up. The Slide clears it from the Top.

Yoda
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Originally Posted by Mathew
I wouldn't mind adding another layer into this conversation by discussing the feet and the roles that the hip and foot action play in regards to the Pivot Train.

One of the reason why the Right Anchor, Delayed Hip Turn, Flat Left foot action should be employed because it is the ideal variation, is that if you have standard Knee, Hip action and Foot action - if the backstroke is not halted with the feet, people using this variation cannot use that same tension in the feet that halted the backstroke to launch the pivot train in the downstroke. When good golfers say they like to 'use the ground', but can't explain it, this is what they mean.

The hip action in the downstroke is very much a reaction to this. You cannot think - right, im going to slide here an inch or two and turn... The correct way is to use that tension in your feet per 7-17 to launch the pivot under your stationary head. 'Swinging from the feet' gives your stroke the maximum Swing radius.

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Good post. Do you think you are "using" your feet or are you "feeling" the down-plane force of your hands and right shoulder going into the ground via your feet? 12 pb
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The swingers pivot drives and creates a pressure against acc#4 at its associated pressure point(#4). You launch the pivot from the tension in your feet, your pivot (power package transport) moves the hands - specifically monitored by the pressure points - to the aiming point.... Mathew


Originally Posted by Mathew

You cannot think - right, im going to slide here an inch or two and turn...
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Originally Posted by Yoda
Mathew is right on here. In my own case, unless I consciously monitor the situation -- which I rarely do -- I am totally unaware of the degree of Hip Slide. However, at one time I worked pretty hard on that Component and still do emphasize its 'parallel to the Plane Line' motion when I practice my Lag Loading via Downstroke Waggles. And here, there is enough lateral motion to transfer the Weight to the left side as the Body begins to Pull the Arms and Hands toward their Impact Locations.

What I am very aware of during the Stroke is being in position -- Centered and perfectly Balanced -- so that when I Drag my 'Wet Mop' down from the Top, the natural swinging DOWN of the Arms will (1) automatically put my Hands well in front of the Ball before Impact, and (2) automatically cause a definite Forward Lean of the Clubshaft all the way through Impact and well into the Follow-Through. I feel as though I am literally hammering the Ball into the ground. And I continue this Down Plane Thrust until both Arms are straight. Obviously, with the longer Clubs the Ball is located nearer Low Point, so the Down element is less dramatic, but it is still there.

All this includes the distinct sensation of my Lower Body and Left Shoulder returning to their Impact Fix alignments. During Start Down and into the Downstroke, I have a very strong awareness that I have moved into a rock-solid position from which I can "drive the Ball into the ground, not into the air" (6-E-2). Not just once in a while, but time after time. In fact, the feeling is that I really can't do anything else! From the Top, all I have to do is swing Down and through the Ball (and Plane Line!) until both Arms are straight, all the time dragging my Wet Mop -- the Clubhead Lag and its Pressure in my Hands -- along behind me.

I have worked diligently on this -- achieving automatically and without effort the Flat Left Wrist and 'Impact Hands' -- since my 'return' to golf two years ago and am happy to report that I am hitting the Ball better now -- by far -- than at any other time in my life.

And that's a good thing.


How good is this post? Amazing!

Enchiladas Verde, not to threadjack. But if one is to go to the Gallery of this here fine website, one will find some pictures of some decent players at Impact or Follow Through: Hogan, Nelson, Player, Buck, Mr. Kelley and a Lil' Green Man.

As you have so clearly stated above "the natural swinging DOWN of the Arms will (1) automatically put my Hands well in front of the Ball before Impact, and (2) automatically cause a definite Forward Lean of the Clubshaft all the way through Impact and well into the Follow-Through." Why are ball strikers of this superior quality in this "forward lean" position so DEEP into Follow-Through vs. some equally good players interms of resume who are more "in-line" at the same point in the Stroke?

Thanks for a super post.
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