Another video from the same spot. Kuchar was arguably the best ball striker on tour last - impact is about as square/square as it gets. The back swing is unusual but the downswing is great.
Thanks, MB.
First, take a look at Matt's Underplane Backstroke at 0.05 (pause it, then do a few 'doubleclicks' until the shaft is parallel to the ground). Note how inside the club is and how you can see the full length of the clubshaft as well as the clubhead.
Then, play on to his his picture-perfect On Plane Downstroke at 0.12. With the shaft once again parallel to the ground, you see nothing but the sole of the clubhead, i.e., no shaft. Ideally, that's what you should see in the Backstroke, no matter how Flat the Plane. But . . .
As Matt demonstrates, as long as you have the talent to realign at the Top and bring the club down On Plane into Impact, you're golden!
But remember, guys, the Elbow Plane is not an absolute. Some Angles are steeper than others, especially through Impact (versus Address).
Also I think, in the case of the Golden Bear, he did favour a fade. With the most vicious release he could produce as a kid. He is swinging left but the clubhead is thrown out right. That will look like a planeshift at impact.
Maybe it is but maybe it isn't. Same thing with Hogan basically, although everything was flatter with Hogan.
Does the ball REALLY just get in the way or does ball location make a difference to timing etc.... ? In any case, that's the only factor I can think of that can "justify" a late planeshift. The more speed the club picks up the harder it will become to shift plane downwards. Because of CF. But you can let it happen upwards. By just letting the clubhead drive the hands out and up. That would be the opposite of what Homer K. recommended I think, when he told us to swing the hands and not the club.
Anyways; If you (within reason) are swinging or hitting as hard as you can - can you do a late planeshift downwards? I don't think so. If the hands are low through impact there's something else going on IMO. And it probably was initiated in the transition as all good things in a full motion.
Ive been Hitting now for about 2 yrs on and off,my BIG fault has been hooking from time to time,mainly when under pressure.
Watching Stricker has confirmed what i thought i was doing wrong,i have been keeping my clubface far too square to plane angle on t/away and down into impact.........how did i think this was correct at the time,i just dont know?,could it be i misunderstood the book,or misread some instruction somewhere.....could be hitting stickman,maybe i just didnt understand the hitters pattern,obviously,mind you,when i was doing something right from time to time the flight of golf ball was like a dart
Now,if I was to describe the hitters pattern to a mate,how would i tell a mate to take away and get to impact IN LAYMANS TERMS
A swing from Memorial 2011, Steve has changed a few things, I see more structure (sort of flying wedges), no longer under-plane approach to the ball and right forearm on plane at impact. His right shoulder is almost on plane in the dowswing.
If you keep your right arm bent well into the DS, like these guys, then you can stay in your posture. If it straightens out early your machine will pull up so you don't hit six inches behind it.
A swing from Memorial 2011, Steve has changed a few things, I see more structure (sort of flying wedges), no longer under-plane approach to the ball and right forearm on plane at impact. His right shoulder is almost on plane in the dowswing.
I could be wrong, let me know what you think !
The camera perspective is really bad, making it difficult to see much. It seems like the camera is around 6 feet off the ground and aligned with the ball, instead of the plane. The camera angle is the reason I really liked the first one that I posted. It's so hard to find good camera angles on TV. But, I do LOVE that motion!
Ok Brownman, I'll bite. Are you meaning single wrist action for startup?
That's what Stricker uses, in my opinion. Hands remaining vertical to the ground during startup - could the hook be from single action backswing and then, instead to the gradual rolling of the clubface to followthrough for the hitter, you're simply over-rolling aka sequenial release (swinging?)
you don't mention what clubs you're doing it with, but are you taking proper impact fix for hitting?
Regarding the club face, hitting is the gradual and constant rolling of the face, while swinging is the uncocking of the left wrist THEN swivel to impact...
Ive been Hitting now for about 2 yrs on and off,my BIG fault has been hooking from time to time,mainly when under pressure.
Watching Stricker has confirmed what i thought i was doing wrong,i have been keeping my clubface far too square to plane angle on t/away and down into impact.........how did i think this was correct at the time,i just dont know?,could it be i misunderstood the book,or misread some instruction somewhere.....
Hooking is caused by a Divergence between face angle and clubhead path. Your path sounds like it might be pointing too far right assuming the ball starts off on line and then hooks left.
Hitters using Angled Hinging will tend to have the back of their left hand or clubface (if you prefer) square to the Arc not the Plane Line, if I understand you correctly. Keeping the face "looking at the ball" so to speak, would be akin to Vertical Hinging ........something I did for years after reading the golf magazines of the 70's and absorbing their "square to square" advice. Straight back from the ball and keep the face looking at the ball. Aka "Steering". How I wish I could get those years back.
I cant remember the Hitting Stick man but perhaps it showed the closed club face compensation associated with Angled which would give it that Vertical Look?
Remember also Hinge Action is really a left hand alignment to one of the three Basic Planes not a face angle thing although at times they can be very similar .......but not when one employs Grip Rotation for balls played back of Low Point , an iron shot say. The guys who describe Hinge Action as a club face alignment might might be trying to simplify the complex but it can lead one down the wrong road and quickly. Which might be the case here, Brownman not sure.
Similarly, the commonly held belief that the " face should be in line with the left arm at Top to be square" , is not necessarily correct. Perhaps for balls played at Low Point with a specific grip type but its really Grip type and Grip Rotation dependent also. See 7-2, 6-H-0 for more on Grip Rotation.
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