LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Zach Johnson validates Tom Tomasello's Instruction Thread: Zach Johnson validates Tom Tomasello's Instruction View Single Post #5 08-15-2012, 10:27 PM O.B.Left Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,433 Originally Posted by MizunoJoe In Hitting there is no throw, you push the right forearm through impact with the right triceps manually uncocking the left wrist with muscle power. "Its called a throw and it is throw" said Homer. I don't want to get stuck on what 4 B Hitting is , or Hitting vs Swinging for that matter. I just want to talk about different types of Right Arm contribution. But this is an important point to clear up if we are going to talk about right arm motion be it active or passive. Pushing vs pulling (swinging vs hitting) is determined by the Right Elbow Position when talking Active Right Arm. If the elbow gets in front its pulling etc... watch out for elbow pain. I do get it on occasion and back off a tad on my Punch Elbow's deepness when Im employing an active right arm, Right Arm Throw, Hitting. The Right Arm Throw , which is "usually" confined to Hitters per 10-20-B does "push" the Primary Lever Assembly..... but the position of the Right Elbow determines how throw like the Right Arm Throw is. Let me explain my thinking. Pitch is called pitch for a reason and is obviously self explanatory. Punch is called punch for a reason but its not an inline jab necessarily. Like a lot of Homers definitions you have the two extremes, in this case Pitch and Push with a large middle ground, in this instance Punch. The middle ground being a spectrum of possibilities which take on the characteristics of the extreme which it approaches. Like a grey scale say. In other words if my right elbow is technically Punch but tending more toward Pitch more than Push it takes on the characteristics of a Pitching , throwing like motion (fanning and bending) more than in line Pushing motion (bending only). And in the this regard Homer was very clear (for a change) : Quote: 10-3-A PUNCH ............. Except with 10-3-C (Push), the Right Forearm must have a “Fanning” type of motion, not a “Linear” Push type of motion (10-3-C). A non linear (fanning and bending) throwing like right arm motion can and does push! It can also pull too. Swingers think this motion with its deepish elbow is their domain only for some reason ... but it isn't. This relates to a a common but incorrect assumption beginning Hitters make when moving from (Push) Basic to Acquired Motion . The inline Push of Push Basic was not intended to be employed for longer shots. The inline right arm motion (bending only) needs to evolve into more side armed like Throwing Motion (fanning and bending). A Right Arm Throw with a Punch Elbow. Not all Hitters use Push Basic by the way , another common misconception. 12-1 Drive Loading for instance employs Punch Basic (fanning and bending) not PUSH and a Right Arm Throw. No inline Pushing anywhere for any length of shot. There's this perception that Hitters always have this inline piston like right arm with the elbow way back there....which is not true in a general sense. I dont see that on tv. Except for some putting , short chipping strokes maybe. Quote: 10-3-C PUSH From an “up-and-out” Elbow Position, which keeps the Hands always between the Elbow and the Ball (or the Plane Line), the Right Arm is Triggered into a heavy pushing action through Impact. Large differences in applied power produce relatively small differences in distance with the Push. This is essentially a Hitting procedure for less than full power. It is fairly independent of Hip motion and location. Moved “On Line” (7-23) it produces and automatic Vertical Clubface Hinging. Moved “Cross Line” it produces an automatic Angled Clubface Hinging. See 10-10. Bold, underline by me. The physics of the Active Right Arm Throw , its motion , is to some extent revealed by the position of the Right Elbow. Fanning / bending mixture. I employ a Right Arm Throw , with a Punch (but a little deep) Elbow and the Throw is like a side armed stone skipping at the aiming point . Which pushes the Primary Lever. I throw the door closed. This is what Yoda and Ted taught me , in personal face to face lesson time.. No Push Basic Elbow past Basic Motion ... actually Ted doesn't like Push Basic much even in basic motion. MJ are you a Swinger talking about Hitters or something? Just kidding ya man.... Last edited by O.B.Left : 08-16-2012 at 03:30 PM. Reason: said punch when Im meant to say push so underlined it O.B.Left View Public Profile Send a private message to O.B.Left Find all posts by O.B.Left