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12 piece bucket 03-01-2008 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by armourall (Post 50476)
Anybody notice in the Choi face-on view that it looks like he loses lag pressure at the end of his backswing before the start down? Looks like the clubhead rebounds a bit.

Toms makes the same move . .. I think Els does it a little bit now too but not much in this video.

Yoda 03-01-2008 04:29 PM

K.J. Choi and David Toms -- Hitters
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by armourall (Post 50476)
Anybody notice in the Choi face-on view that it looks like he loses lag pressure at the end of his backswing before the start down? Looks like the clubhead rebounds a bit.

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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket (Post 50478)
Toms makes the same move . . .

K. J. Choi and David Toms are Hitters who have been taught to take their Backstroke to the Swinger's End (Hands well above Right Shoulder with the Clubshaft approaching Horizontal). In their respective videos, instead of 're-tracing' and Drag Loading (10-19-C) -- the Swinger's procedure -- each is simply establishing those alignments most compatible with their true Hitter's Pattern (and with which they are most comfortable).

In other words, they are returning to the Hitter's Top -- Hands Right Shoulder High and On Plane -- with a minimum of #2 Accumulator (Left Wristcock) Lag. Pause each video at this point and you will see the classic Hitter's alignments, including the 'high clubshaft' pointing skyward. [A comparison of these 'swings' at this point with the Ted Fort's Top would be instructive. Help, hg!]

From here, each player begins his Hitter's Drive Load (10-19-A) toward the Ball; his Hitter's Random Sweep Release (Automatic / 10-24-C); and his Hitter's Angled Hinge Action (10-10-C) through Impact and Follow-Through.

:)

drewitgolf 03-01-2008 05:29 PM

A.I. for the Straight Guy (and those that want to be)
 
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Originally Posted by DukeNasty (Post 50458)
Unless you are analyzing frame by frame, no one knows so your assumption may be invalid.

E.

BBax (Rob Baxter) is a PGA member and also an A.I. He is one of the best teachers in New England. He has great eyes (in a "golfing way"). Not that there is anything wrong with that :naughty: .

golfbulldog 03-01-2008 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by YodasLuke (Post 50470)
Check out Tim Clark's feet.

Baddeley and Calc have dancing right foot into follow through....big toe tapping slide.

Yoda 03-01-2008 07:52 PM

Drewitgolf's Right Side (of the Brain)
 
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Originally Posted by drewitgolf (Post 50480)

BBax (Rob Baxter) is a PGA member and also an A.I. He is one of the best teachers in New England. He has great eyes (in a "golfing way"). Not that there is anything wrong with that :naughty: .

Thanks for this info, Drew. I didn't know BBax's qualifications, but am glad I now do.

Also, loved the title of your post:

A.I. for the Straight Guy (and those that want to be)

Very creative!

http://www.angelfire.com/wi/2brains/right.html

http://www.angelfire.com/wi/2brains/left.html

We should have a separate thread on this stuff!

:salut:

hg 03-01-2008 08:04 PM

kj toms fort comparison
 
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How's this :)

Yoda 03-01-2008 08:11 PM

The Hitter's Top
 
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Originally Posted by hg (Post 50489)
How's this :)

Great, hg. Now let's isolate Ted's frame #5 (his Top / 10-21-A / Hands shoulder high) and capture the same spot in KJ's and David's swings (their Downstroke Top / 10-21-D / Hands at Top during End downstroke). Three photos total.

Thanks!

hg 03-01-2008 09:05 PM

Top Comparison
 
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Here are thumbnails of Ted's Top compared to David & KJ at same location on downswing. :)

Daryl 03-01-2008 09:13 PM

I think that the videos are just ok. :)

Yoda 03-01-2008 09:15 PM

Hitter's Lineup
 
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Originally Posted by hg (Post 50494)

Here's thumbnails of Ted's Top & David & KJ at same location on downswing. :)


And there you have it. Thanks, Hector!

Also, compare the Hitter's Minimum Lag (10-19-0) -- see David Toms in the thumbnail below -- with the Swinger's Maximum Lag (10-19-0) you see here:

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/cmps_in...age=multimedia


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