I'm not sure I understand what you mean, Mike, but I'll go ahead and answer anyway: "I don't think so."
Even post-Impact, the player sees "through" the Plane and thus the Angle and Arc of Approach Delivery Lines that are actually on the Plane appear on the ground.
I was thinking about the right arm driving crossline in a Hit stroke with an Angle Hinge toward right field vs a Horizontal Hinge Action of the Swing stroke that rolls the face shut.
I was thinking about the right arm driving crossline in a Hit stroke with an Angle Hinge toward right field vs a Horizontal Hinge Action of the Swing stroke that rolls the face shut.
Both Hitter and Swinger see their respective Delivery Lines as being on the ground, not on the Plane.
There are three possible Delivery Lines to guide the Clubhead into Impact:
1. The true Geometric Plane Line. This is the straight-line Base Line of the Inclined Plane, and it may be used by both Hitter and Swinger. As the fundamental Plane Line Variation listed for both the Basic Stroke Patterns -- Drive Loading (Hitting / 12-1-0) and Drag Loading (Swinging / 12-2-0) -- it sits atop the Target Line. The player Traces this Line with the Clubhead, the #3 Pressure Point and the Right Forearm to Deliver the Clubhead into Impact.
2. The Arc of Approach. This is the curved line of the Clubhead Blur through Impact. It is a Visual Equivalent of the true Geometric Plane Line and is best restricted to Swinging. The player Covers this Line with the Clubhead and Traces it with the Right Forearm and #3 Pressure Point to Deliver the Clubhead into Impact.
3. The Angle of Approach. This is the straight line drawn through the Impact Point and Low Point. It is likewise a Visual Equivalent of the true Geometric Plane Line and is best restricted to Hitting. Because the Inclined Plane is inclined, this Delivery Line goes out to "right field." The player Covers this Line with the Clubhead and Traces it with the Right Forearm and #3 Pressure Point to Deliver the Clubhead into Impact. Hitters may use -- but are not required to use -- this Line to guide their Cross-Line Thrust through Impact. If it is used, it serves only as a Delivery Line (to Cover) and not as a substitute Closed Plane Line (to Trace). It is, in fact, the Angle of Approach to the Geometric Plane Line, not a true Plane Line in and of itself. If it were a true Plane Line, then it would have an Angle of Approach. And as all seasoned students of The Golfing Machine know...
There is no Angle of Approach to the Angle of Approach.
Both Hitter and Swinger see their respective Delivery Lines as being on the ground, not on the Plane.
There are three possible Delivery Lines to guide the Clubhead into Impact:
1. The true Geometric Plane Line. This is the straight-line Base Line of the Inclined Plane, and it may be used by both Hitter and Swinger. As the fundamental Plane Line Variation listed for both the Basic Stroke Patterns -- Drive Loading (Hitting / 12-1-0) and Drag Loading (Swinging / 12-2-0) -- it sits atop the Target Line. The player Traces this Line with the Clubhead, the #3 Pressure Point and the Right Forearm to Deliver the Clubhead into Impact.
2. The Arc of Approach. This is the curved line of the Clubhead Blur through Impact. It is a Visual Equivalent of the true Geometric Plane Line and is best restricted to Swinging. The player Covers this Line with the Clubhead and Traces it with the Right Forearm and #3 Pressure Point to Deliver the Clubhead into Impact.
3. The Angle of Approach. This is the straight line drawn through the Impact Point and Low Point. It is likewise a Visual Equivalent of the true Geometric Plane Line and is best restricted to Hitting. Because the Inclined Plane is inclined, this Delivery Line goes out to "right field." The player Covers this Line with the Clubhead and Traces it with the Right Forearm and #3 Pressure Point to Deliver the Clubhead into Impact. Hitters may use -- but are not required to use -- this Line to guide their Cross-Line Thrust through Impact. If it is used, it serves only as a Delivery Line (to Cover) and not as a substitute Closed Plane Line (to Trace). It is, in fact, the Angle of Approach to the Geometric Plane Line, not a true Plane Line in and of itself. If it were a true Plane Line, then it would have an Angle of Approach. And as all seasoned students of The Golfing Machine know...
There is no Angle of Approach to the Angle of Approach.
Stroke Dr. Spock,
Could one not also "trace" the extension of the Straight Line Delivery Path of the HANDS with the #3 PP from the Top to the Ball or Aiming Point?
As Mr. Kelley said in the 5th . . . Just like drawing a straight line . . . you don't LOOK AT THE CHALK . . . YOU LOOK AT THE POINT WHERE YOU WANT THE LINE TO FINISH . . . In this case I reckon the chalk is the thrust or the loaded pressure in your paws.
Could one not also "trace" the extension of the Straight Line Delivery Path of the HANDS with the #3 PP from the Top to the Ball or Aiming Point?
I suppose you could look at it that way. However, the Delivery Path is best conceived as a Line of Thrust, not as a Line to Trace. And, as you have stated, that Thrust is always directly toward the Ball or, alternatively, the Aiming Point, even as the Hands move in a curve.
Keep these identities distinct: Delivery Lines refer to the Delivery of the Clubhead into Impact. Delivery Paths refer to the Delivery of the Hands into Impact.
Correctly executed, both produce identical Impact Alignments and Line of Compression through the Ball.
... the Delivery Path is best conceived as a Line of Thrust, not as a Line to Trace.
Could you explain the differences between the two? I think I have a kind of vague intuition regarding those differences, but I think it would be helpful to hear it put into words.
Could you explain the differences between the two? I think I have a kind of vague intuition regarding those differences, but I think it would be helpful to hear it put into words.
At the Top, the Clubhead Lag (as sensed in the #3 Pressure Point, the right forefinger), is the "stone" you are going to throw, i.e., propel, toward Impact. That Throw is accomplished as a Straight Line Effort toward the Aiming Point (usually the Ball). This is the Delivery Path of the Hands (and Thrust).
As the Hands take their straight-line Path Down Plane toward the Ball, the #3 Pressure Point and Forearm seek to Trace the straight-line Base Line of the Inclined Plane. This is the Delivery Line of the Clubhead.
These are interdependent efforts, and you should practice them separately. Monitor one or the other but not both at the same time. Both are Imperative, but of the two, the Delivery Path rules.
Under the control of the subconscious Computer, they ultimately combine to produce with maximum precision the On Plane orbit of the Sweetspot through Release and Impact.
At the Top, the Clubhead Lag (as sensed in the #3 Pressure Point, the right forefinger), is the "stone" you are going to throw, i.e., propel, toward Impact. That Throw is accomplished as a Straight Line Effort toward the Aiming Point (usually the Ball). This is the Delivery Path of the Hands (and Thrust).
As the Hands take their straight-line Path Down Plane toward the Ball, the #3 Pressure Point and Forearm seek to Trace the straight-line Base Line of the Inclined Plane. This is the Delivery Line of the Clubhead.
These are interdependent efforts, and you should practice them separately. Monitor one or the other but not both at the same time. Both are Imperative, but of the two, the Delivery Path rules.
Under the control of the subconscious Computer, they ultimately combine to produce with maximum precision the On Plane orbit of the Sweetspot through Release and Impact.
In the Brian Gay first clip on the ranging hitting his driver, near the end- you can see him driving his hands to aiming point in an extented practice motion before address. Been studying tonight- hahahah
Last edited by 6bmike : 01-29-2007 at 01:18 AM.
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I suppose you could look at it that way. However, the Delivery Path is best conceived as a Line of Thrust, not as a Line to Trace. And, as you have stated, that Thrust is always directly toward the Ball or, alternatively, the Aiming Point, even as the Hands move in a curve.
Keep these identities distinct: Delivery Lines refer to the Delivery of the Clubhead into Impact. Delivery Paths refer to the Delivery of the Hands into Impact.
Correctly executed, both produce identical Impact Alignments and Line of Compression through the Ball.
Boss,
This here's from the 4th . . . It ain't exactly "tracing" . . . And this didn't make the cut. 6-E-2. He speaks to this too in the audio.
This Aiming Point procedure seems more easily acquired if introduced as a Feel. At the top of the Backstroke - even at the End (10-21-C) - mentally construct a line from the Hands to the Aiming Point. Let a careful Downstroke Pivot move the Hands precisely along this line - they will Feel as though they remain at the top of the stroke. Don't question that Feel - just sustain (monitor) it per 5-0, all ready for Release at the preselected Release Point (10-19, 10-24). Drive the Hands (Clubhead Feel 7-19) down the line (2-N) until both arms are straight - i.e., NO QUITTING. That procedure merely utilizes a long used method for drawing freehand straight lines between two points. Using the Clubshaft as the pencil is an effective equivalent.
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