Is it "normal" in a good swing for the left wrist to get to the uncocked condition purely by the action of centrifigual force? What would the ramifications be of "only" getting from cocked to level with the left wrist? Is it even possible to go from cocked to level and not get to uncocked?
I've been focusing a bit more over the last few range sessions on ensuring the left wrist gets to the uncocked condition after impact. It's a different feel .......... slightly "heavier" through impact and it seems to encourage getting to a good "both arms straight" position. Past video of my swing always shows I have plenty of #3 at impact and a club that wants to go "low and left" pretty quickly after impact (usually exiting between waist and shoulder high as viewed from down-the-line). I've never felt like I achieved as much extension at the end of the follow-thru position as I should (sort of like having plenty of "down and forward" but not enough "out").
Could merely the intent of getting the LW uncocked after impact can fix some other issues?
I hate to think I've been "quitting" all these years.
Is it "normal" in a good swing for the left wrist to get to the uncocked condition purely by the action of centrifigual force? What would the ramifications be of "only" getting from cocked to level with the left wrist? Is it even possible to go from cocked to level and not get to uncocked?
I've been focusing a bit more over the last few range sessions on ensuring the left wrist gets to the uncocked condition after impact. It's a different feel .......... slightly "heavier" through impact and it seems to encourage getting to a good "both arms straight" position. Past video of my swing always shows I have plenty of #3 at impact and a club that wants to go "low and left" pretty quickly after impact (usually exiting between waist and shoulder high as viewed from down-the-line). I've never felt like I achieved as much extension at the end of the follow-thru position as I should (sort of like having plenty of "down and forward" but not enough "out").
Could merely the intent of getting the LW uncocked after impact can fix some other issues?
I hate to think I've been "quitting" all these years.
CG
The action of the Left Wrist and Left Arm Flying Wedge is essentially a HAMMERING motion. Get your hammer out and hammer some crap. Hammer in a vertical plane. Watch how your wrist works. See how the handle of the hammer works in the plane of your left arm . . . say hello to your Left Arm Flying Wedge. He is your pal. Now put your hammer down and pick up your golf club. Hammer with it just like you were hammering a nail in a vertical plane just outside your left shoulder (low point). Slam the club into the ground. Let your wrist FULL UNCOCK. Hey you just met Full Lever Extension. He is also your pal.
Now that you know how (and knew how) to hammer in a Vertical Plane. What have you learned? Did you hit with the hammer? Or did you swing the hammer? Did you let the weight of the hammer uncock your left wrist? Or did you use your wrist muskles? Maybe you did both . . . which one works better?
Now with your left hand only hammer on an INCLINED PLANE instead of a Vertical Plane. Forget about where you strike the ground at first. You probably will strike the ground way up plane not even close to the ball. Just get the feel of hammering on the inclined plane and going to full extension. Not to hard right? You just met Throw Out Action. He's your pal too. It's very similar to the hammering on a vertical plane no? I mean you have a plane line in both right? In both motions your first move is to drag the butt of the hammer/club toward the respective plane line right? Then the uncocking begins either with you using your musklez to do it or "letting" it happen via CF. I'd argue that "letting" is the way to go.
Now the question is this here . . . how do you get the club to bottom out IN FRONT OF THE BALL? Well what you DON'T want to do is to BEND YOUR LEFT WRIST (HORIZONTAL MOTION) to get to the ball. Horzontal Motions ain't for Downstrokes a'tall. OK genius then how do you do it? With a ROLL or ROTATIONAL MOTION. The Rotation or Swivel of the Left Wrist brings the clubhead forward to get to the ball. Keep in mind that you are Uncocking but NOT FULLY UNCOCKED AT IMPACT (unless you want to hit a weakazz shot). You are LEVEL at Impact and Uncocked at both arms straight. You want some accumulator left to drive the ball into the ground. If you wrist is uncocked you lost your down too early . . . Premature Down Disfunction.
So now that you got the components of the Release down separately . . . forget about that crap. You can drill them but then you have to go to . . . I'm taking the pressure points DOWNPLANE and letting the other crap work itself out because I know how it works and I have trained it. At least I think that's what you should do.
When people really understand 4-D-O and 2-P; that Wristcock is a Clubhead motion and Rolling is a Clubface motion (in most cases) and the two are seperate but coordinated, their game will go to a new "Level". All this is done by Monitoring the Hands.
As Mr. Kelley stated, "The Hands become adjustable clamps with two power actuators- for Vertical and Rotational manipulation. The Left Wrist is merely a hinge-pin allowing Wristcock but no Wristbend."
Notice he left out Horizontal Wrist motion, the number one cause for the motion to breakdown.
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Last edited by drewitgolf : 03-01-2007 at 05:30 PM.
Reason: gramatical correctness
When people really understand 4-D-O and 2-P; that Wristcock is a Clubhead motion and Rolling is a Clubface motion (in most cases) and the two are seperate but coordinated, their game will go to a new "Level". All this is done by Monitoring the Hands.
As Mr. Kelley stated, "The Hands become adjustable clamps with two power actuators- for Vertical and Rotational manipulation. The Left Wrist is merely a hinge-pin allowing Wristcock but no Wristbend."
Notice he left out Horizontal Wrist motion, the number one cause for the motion to breakdown.
Norrin Radd Surfer dude,
As one of the most well versed teachers of The Golfing Machine . . . what do you do with your students to bridge the gap between the Uncocking and the Rolling? I think the Uncocking part is the easy part it's the blending of the two that seems to be hard.
What's the scoop chicken poop? Or better not to scoop the chicken poop?
When people really understand 4-D-O and 2-P; that Wristcock is a Clubhead motion and Rolling is a Clubface motion (in most cases) and the two are seperate but coordinated, their game will go to a new "Level". All this is done by Monitoring the Hands.
As Mr. Kelley stated, "The Hands become adjustable clamps with two power actuators- for Vertical and Rotational manipulation. The Left Wrist is merely a hinge-pin allowing Wristcock but no Wristbend."
Notice he left out Horizontal Wrist motion, the number one cause for the motion to breakdown.
Drewit,
I'm totally in agreement..... 12-piece has been posting some of his best stuff lately! I understand the vertical motion concept of the uncocking (on the inclined plane) and the sequential release of the swinger, however when I use a hammer I tend to uncock it to a "level" condition in TGM terms. Unfortunately I believe I also do the same in the golf swing which (I think) is undesireable. Have you seen students who can maintain the FLW yet who don't always get to the uncocked condition after impact?
My miss tends to be to the right and I recall somewhere in the book that a miss to the right could mean you're not getting to "both arms straight". (I'm all too familiar with "that wilted feeling"). Consciously trying to get to an uncocked LW after impact seems to help.
Have you seen students who can maintain the FLW yet who don't always get to the uncocked condition after impact?
CG
I was "that dude" before Eddie Cox schooled me on Full Lever Extension. My concept of Lag was Accumulator Lag on 'roidz (ster not hem). I thought you just had to keep your left wrist COCKED and TIGHT as long as possibly could. You can't get the full DOWN element if you do that plus you'll compromise your plane.
Without seeing it . . . I bet since you miss it right you are not allowing the club to go down and release. Left wrist staying cocked and turned to long. What do your divots look like? Chops or strips?
Eddie Cox is one of the elite best . . . Have you seen 'em . . . tell me have you seen 'em? Why oooooo why did leave? Did he goooooooo aaaaaaaaway????
One point I want to bring up is that full extension is an ideal. Going to full uncock is certainly a very close approximation from the level left wrist at impact however in some strokes which are mechanically less than ideal this may not be the case. The wrist motions must comply with the angular motion taking place on the inclined plane... which dictates exactly how uncocked the left wrist may be.
Also you do not go to a full wrist uncock at followthrough except for angled hinging.....
One point I want to bring up is that full extension is an ideal. Going to full uncock is certainly a very close approximation from the level left wrist at impact however in some strokes which are mechanically less than ideal this may not be the case. The wrist motions must comply with the angular motion taking place on the inclined plane... which dictates exactly how uncocked the left wrist may be.
Also you do not go to a full wrist uncock at followthrough except for angled hinging.....
I think I remember you said that in swinging the left wrist is fully uncocked just after low point. Is that right ?
What happens after full lever extension ? Does the left wrist recoil back to cocked ?
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I think I remember you said that in swinging the left wrist is fully uncocked just after low point. Is that right ?
With Horizontal hinging the wrist will be most uncocked fractionally (and I mean really really really really fractionally) just past low point.
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What happens after full lever extension ? Does the left wrist recoil back to cocked ?
Through the impact interval with Horizontal Hinging your left wrist will recock to some degree... whereas the angled hinging will become more and more uncocked as the left arm gets closer to the plane. Now assuming you do a flat 'flat' left wrist finish swivel - the degrees of wristcock and wristroll become simultaneous and the wrist will cock 90 degrees when the hand is rolled to the plane. Now if you did a flat to the plane regardless of wherever the left arm may be in relation to the plane...well now they become as sequenced as you like bearing in mind where your hinge action is in relation to followthrough and what you were doing there previously.....
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