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Old 03-16-2008, 12:50 PM
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Yoda,

Would you agree that Brian's right leg action (fairly in-line to his stance line) allows more room for his arms and does not disrupt his hand path the way that spinning his right knee out toward the ball would?
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Old 03-16-2008, 01:30 PM
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Hip Motion . . . Not Knee Motion
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Yoda,

Would you agree that Brian's right leg action (fairly in-line to his stance line) allows more room for his arms and does not disrupt his hand path the way that spinning his right knee out toward the ball would?
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Substituting a Knee Motion for what is properly a Hip Motion -- in both directions -- is one of the biggest misconceptions in golf. In fact, the Feet and Knees accomodate the Hip Turn, and not vice versa.

'Firing the right knee' and 'driving the legs' -- Downstroke swing thoughts I practiced in my pre-TGM naivete -- are disastrous and lead to the alignment disruptions you have noted.

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Old 03-20-2008, 10:40 AM
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Yoda,

Would you reccomend Brians motion as a model for a TGM newbie leaning toward swinging?

He just seems so efficient. If i can get my drives out there 250 yds and straight, I'd be giddy. I'd just want to be able to hit crisp irons and have decent lenght off the tee. Repeatability over monster length.

Also can you lead me to any links or vids where I can learn to work on a basic hip/ pivot action for a swinger new to TGM?

Thanks!
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Old 03-20-2008, 11:31 PM
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Yoda,

Would you reccomend Brians motion as a model for a TGM newbie leaning toward swinging?

He just seems so efficient.

Also can you lead me to any links or vids where I can learn to work on a basic hip/ pivot action for a swinger new to TGM?
I would recommend Brian's motion to anyone, Swinger or Hitter.

Body Control (9-1) -- Pivot
  • Stationary Head (2-0-A-1).
  • Stable Feet (10-17-C) and Knees (10-16-C).
  • On Plane Shoulder Turn (10-13-D)
  • Delayed Hip Turn (10-15-B)
Clubshaft Control (1-L-A)-- Plane Line Tracing
  • Right Forearm On Plane at Address.
  • Right Forearm On Plane through Impact.
Clubhead Control (1-L-B) -- Lag Pressure.
  • Loaded by the Pivot.
  • Delivered by the Arms.
  • Guided by the Hands.
Clubface Control (1-L-C) -- Flat Left Wrist and Hinge Action.
  • When Centrifugal Force drives the Clubhead -- Swinging -- the tendency is toward Horizontal Hinging.
  • When Muscular Thrust drives the Clubhead -- Hitting -- the tendency is toward Angled Hinging.
Regarding Pivot Drills, I recommend the MacDonald Exercises #1-4 and #10-11: http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=4435.

Also, selected portions of the From Mechanics to Feel videos in The Gallery:http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/gallery...ry.php?cat=509.

Finally, when available, Disc #2 -- Drills -- from the soon-to-be-released Blake/Trolio Series.

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Old 03-22-2008, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoda View Post
I would recommend Brian's motion to anyone, Swinger or Hitter.

Body Control (9-1) -- Pivot
  • Stationary Head (2-0-A-1).
  • Stable Feet (10-17-C) and Knees (10-16-C).
  • On Plane Shoulder Turn (10-13-D)
  • Delayed Hip Turn (10-15-B)
Clubshaft Control (1-L-A)-- Plane Line Tracing
  • Right Forearm On Plane at Address.
  • Right Forearm On Plane through Impact.
Clubhead Control (1-L-B) -- Lag Pressure.
  • Loaded by the Pivot.
  • Delivered by the Arms.
  • Guided by the Hands.
Clubface Control (1-L-C) -- Flat Left Wrist and Hinge Action.
  • When Centrifugal Force drives the Clubhead -- Swinging -- the tendency is toward Horizontal Hinging.
  • When Muscular Thrust drives the Clubhead -- Hitting -- the tendency is toward Angled Hinging.
Regarding Pivot Drills, I recommend the MacDonald Exercises #1-4 and #10-11: http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=4435.

Also, selected portions of the From Mechanics to Feel videos in The Gallery:http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/gallery...ry.php?cat=509.

Finally, when available, Disc #2 -- Drills -- from the soon-to-be-released Blake/Trolio Series.


Today I had a good practice session....my swing has been wobbly lately...I kept in mind Yoda's checklist above and Brian's motion ( I have fortunately seen it in person) and what seems to be a minor adjustment made a big difference in the quality of my contact and the feeling of being able to HH through the ball. It was in my SETUP. First, I set the club on its natural lie (which was more upright than I had been doing) than the right forearm on the same line. This brought me closer to the ball ....I felt comfortable being more upright with my upper body & with minor knee flex & with no hunched over the ball feeling. It seemed like the rest of the swing fell into place. Can something this minor make that much difference...maybe so.....it sure seems if you start your setup incorrectly ...a chain reaction of setup issues can occur which will disrupt the entire swing.

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Old 03-23-2008, 01:12 AM
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I noted that Brian Gay has his hands higher at address (on the elbow plane) than most PGA tour players who have their hands on the hand plane. Can one cock/hinge the wrists as easily during the backswing when starting from a higher hand postion? Why do most PGA tour players hold their hands on the hand plane (extension line drawn from the butt end of the club points at the belt buckle)?

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Old 03-23-2008, 02:44 PM
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Brian Gay -DTL Sequence
Here's Brian's driver sequence from a down the line view with reference lines....this may help spur some responses.
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Old 03-23-2008, 04:38 PM
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Can one cock/hinge the wrists as easily during the backswing when starting from a higher hand postion?
No. The reason is the lower the hands are at address, the more cocked the wrists are, so as it relates to getting the wrists cocked in the backswing you are ahead of the starting line. The thing you have to figure out is which is more difficult to overcome. Many would argue that lower hands creates far more compensations than having to retrain your wrists. If you don't overroll as you start your backswing your right elbow bend should cock your left wrist.
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The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)

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