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Old 07-27-2008, 09:49 AM
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Hitting with a Shoulder Turn Takeaway
You use a shoulder turn takeaway with strong single action grip and the right elbow action of hitting. (bending and unbending)

Use single wrist action only. (left wrist cocking only)

Standard pivot.

The elbow and turned shoulder plane are used with a single or double shift.

Right arm thrust is more down with the double shift and the feel for it takes some time getting use to it.

I find the single shift a little easier but both will work.

Adjusting the Sweet Spot Balance at impact fix. (hinge action)

I will explain what I am talking about.

Changing the balance of the sweet spot has different effects on the club face at impact automatically if you let the club work like a club.

If you balance a golf club on you right shoulder you will see how the toe of the club hangs down. If you look at the face angle, the club face is closed.

This is the in balance position of the sweet spot.

Now to change the sweet spot balance at impact you move the sweet spot balance at impact fix from in balance to what I call heavy left or more closed.

This will set the balance for more of a draw. Move it to what I call heavy right or more open. This will set the balance for more of a fade.

Using the sweet spot balance allows the club to work like a club without a manipulation of the hands.

Make adjustments to the target line, club face at impact fix (Sweet Spot Balance) and ball position for for the desired shot.

Hitting with a shoulder turn takeaway is very easy to learn and worth the time to give it a try.

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Old 07-30-2008, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by purehitter View Post
You use a shoulder turn takeaway with strong single action grip and the right elbow action of hitting. (bending and unbending)

Use single wrist action only. (left wrist cocking only)

Standard pivot.

The elbow and turned shoulder plane are used with a single or double shift.

Right arm thrust is more down with the double shift and the feel for it takes some time getting use to it.

I find the single shift a little easier but both will work.

Adjusting the Sweet Spot Balance at impact fix. (hinge action)

I will explain what I am talking about.

Changing the balance of the sweet spot has different effects on the club face at impact automatically if you let the club work like a club.

If you balance a golf club on you right shoulder you will see how the toe of the club hangs down. If you look at the face angle, the club face is closed.

This is the in balance position of the sweet spot.

Now to change the sweet spot balance at impact you move the sweet spot balance at impact fix from in balance to what I call heavy left or more closed.

This will set the balance for more of a draw. Move it to what I call heavy right or more open. This will set the balance for more of a fade.

Using the sweet spot balance allows the club to work like a club without a manipulation of the hands.

Make adjustments to the target line, club face at impact fix (Sweet Spot Balance) and ball position for for the desired shot.

Hitting with a shoulder turn takeaway is very easy to learn and worth the time to give it a try.

This pattern seems very similar to the stack and tilt pattern. They advocate a shoulder turn takeaway in which you keep both arms connected to the body (#4 pressure point and right side equivalent). They suggest hands plane to elbow plane [but with longer clubs elbow to turned shoulder is an option].
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Old 07-30-2008, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by finster869 View Post
This pattern seems very similar to the stack and tilt pattern. They advocate a shoulder turn takeaway in which you keep both arms connected to the body (#4 pressure point and right side equivalent). They suggest hands plane to elbow plane [but with longer clubs elbow to turned shoulder is an option].
I never looked at it that way but I can see similar components.
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Old 07-31-2008, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by purehitter View Post
I never looked at it that way but I can see similar components.
Here is a video of an on plane shoulder turn takeaway back swing.

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Old 07-31-2008, 03:05 PM
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Here is a video of an on plane shoulder turn takeaway back swing.

Honestly- Isn't this position golf. This is not the RFT, 7-3 or Stack and Tilt.
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Old 07-31-2008, 06:58 PM
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Honestly- Isn't this position golf. This is not the RFT, 7-3 or Stack and Tilt.
The thread is hitting with a shoulder turn takeaway not hitting with a right forearm takeaway. It is on plane golf, verifying alignments. It is an easy way to see the plane line as you practice the motion. You match the plane line with the bars on the PAP. You learn to see lines as you make a continuous motion. Also the video teaches an on plane shoulder turn takeaway in 5 minutes. There is no guessing. You know when you are on or off plane. A shoulder turn takeaway for most golfers is not easy to learn and is inside and off plane most of the time. What references do you use when you practice your back swing to see if it is on plane?
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Old 07-31-2008, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by purehitter View Post
What references do you use when you practice your back swing to see if it is on plane?
I use a rft with extension action. I'm there each time.
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Old 07-31-2008, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bmike View Post
I use a rft with extension action. I'm there each time.
Yes, but how do you verify to someone else that you are correct and do your alignments match the shoulder turn takeaway's if you were to use that? If not how do they differ?
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Old 08-01-2008, 02:19 AM
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I never looked at it that way but I can see similar components.
To post a video on the forum- no big deal. To post a video - describing how to use your product - well either you get prior OK from Lynn Blake or you're continuing to push the envelope in regards to forum policy. I don't know which one you fall on- but I could guess. That's my take- I'm certainly not talking for Lynn Blake.
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Old 08-01-2008, 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike O View Post
To post a video on the forum- no big deal. To post a video - describing how to use your product - well either you get prior OK from Lynn Blake or your continuing to push the envelope in regards to forum policy. I don't know which one you fall on- but I could guess. That's my take- I'm certainly not talking for Lynn Blake.
Since I only teach with some form of swing trainer the instruction videos are going to have one of more in the videos. I am not saying in the video to buy the trainers and that you need them to learn the golf swing but only giving my take on golf instruction. Many of the instruction videos I will post you can practice with a club, dowel or tennis racket as well.
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