HOMEMADE - “The Smart Stick” co-inventor Martin Hall

[6bmike]

I doubt you got the same results but I get your opinion. I don’t have a problem with improvement of swing trainers and welcome it, but I do have a problem with people who knock of patents that someone has worked hard and spend a lot of time and money for.

The Smart Stick is not the only swing trainer to knock off one of mine. David Leadbetter has done the same with his swing setter but his advertizing has sold many of mine, so that is a good thing. This is my livelihood and I have no problem with competition and I really don’t worry about knockoffs as they are poor imitations of the real deal and are here today and gone tomorrow.

I am going on 13 years of successful development of positive transfer swing trainers and have seen many try and fail. It takes more than just looking like the product as there are many things one does not see for the balance and feel of the swing trainer that make it an effective positive transfer swing trainer. The smart stick will have a short marketing success and then you will not hear about it. This is what happens with most training aids. I have seen many come and go.

As for supporting it even if it was not a knock off, mine is superior as you can hit balls with it and it cost effective for the golfer.

On fgi you called LBG members a bunch of star war freaks when some had more machine knowledge then you. Now you single out individuals. Tom is a stand up guy- knows a lot about the golf stroke and a pleasure to be with. I'd buy his any product he develops- not yours. btw- everyone that came into the teaching center loved his smart stick and enjoyed talking WITH him.

[purehitter]

On fgi you called LBG members a bunch of star war freaks when some had more machine knowledge then you.

I think you better get your quotes correct. I have never said that. It is a lie and you should remove from the thread. As for my knowledge on TGM you don't know how much I have so that is another lie.

[6bmike]

I think you better get your quotes correct. I have never said that. It is a lie and you should remove from the thread. As for my knowledge on TGM you don't know how much I have so that is another lie.

I know what I read- You were a Manzella guy at the time- that was one of the things he called us.

[purehitter]

I know what I read- You were a Manzella guy at the time- that was one of the things he called us.

If Manzella called you that you need to take it up with him.

[EdZ]

I've used both devices and met both inventors. As for the two products, they have a similar goal (on plane motion), but different ways of getting there.

They are both quality products.

The Pure Swing will give you the feels of both plane and swivel. It shows the swivel feel (and fanning) far better than similar products. A 'full motion' feel device.

Where the Pure Swing is a 'feel' device, the Smart Stick is a visual device, it will show you where you are on plane/off plane. Useful for 'slow motion' building of feel.

Similar results, different paths of getting there. Both worth checking out.

[purehitter]

I've used both devices and met both inventors. As for the two products, they have a similar goal (on plane motion), but different ways of getting there.

They are both quality products.

The Pure Swing will give you the feels of both plane and swivel. It shows the swivel feel (and fanning) far better than similar products. A 'full motion' feel device.

Where the Pure Swing is a 'feel' device, the Smart Stick is a visual device, it will show you where you are on plane/off plane. Useful for 'slow motion' building of feel.

Similar results, different paths of getting there. Both worth checking out.

EdZ, Thanks for easing the tension on this thread.

[Burner]

I was privileged to be given two flashlights, joined end to end by a two way ferrule, by my mate Golfguru.

Since we are exhorted to swing, and monitor, the hands this arrangement, which loosely replicates a golf club grip, is ideal for the purpose of tracing the plane line. And, it costs bugger all!

Thanks Guru!

[pistol]

I know what I read- You were a Manzella guy at the time- that was one of the things he called us.

Hmmm I am now very curious about the factions within the TGM Church in the USA . I call it a Church since it seems like a division of religion over there.
Can it be that a lot of you feel that there is the good ole inferiority complex surfacing its head?
Who is on who's side over there? Can i get a list?

This is not directed towards 6bmike or anyone in particular

One thing from reading extensively i have noticed is that Lynn Blake does NOT rag on anyone . So maybe MR Blake does not have the inferiority complex raging that as humans we all have a predisposition too.

Bottom line is he probably knows what the F... he is talking about

[6bmike]

Hmmm I am now very curious about the factions within the TGM Church in the USA . I call it a Church since it seems like a division of religion over there.
Can it be that a lot of you feel that there is the good ole inferiority complex surfacing its head?
Who is on who's side over there? Can i get a list?

This is not directed towards 6bmike or anyone in particular

One thing from reading extensively i have noticed is that Lynn Blake does NOT rag on anyone . So maybe MR Blake does not have the inferiority complex raging that as humans we all have a predisposition too.

Bottom line is he probably knows what the F... he is talking about

Lynn, of course knows the book better than anyone. It is not a secret that Lynn and BM went their own ways a couple of months after a workshop at Woodmont CC, but it was not over interpretation of the book. I have not signed on to BMs site since that workshop so I have no idea what he teaches these days but friendship and civility counts for a lot. Many on here post on both sites and count BM as a friend- I have no problem with that. He just ain't my cup of tea anymore. Ironically, Katarina hit the same time as Woodmont- I hope all of New Orleans and gulf coast is spared from the two 'canes approaching this time.

[pistol]

Lynn, of course knows the book better than anyone. It is not a secret that Lynn and Brian M. went their own ways after a workshop in Woodmont, but it was not over interpretation of the book. I have not signed on to BMs site since that workshop so I have no idea what he teaches these days but friendship and civility counts for a lot. Many on here post on both sites and count BM as a friend- I have no problem with that. He just ain't my cup of tea anymore. Ironically, Katarina hit the same time as Woodmont- I hope all of New Orleans and gulf coast is spared from the two 'canes approaching this time.

Righto that explains it somewhat.

Puerhitter/John with the new 3d trainer you got coming out can you hit balls with it?