I grip the club with the right hand first, forearm, lifeline and triggerfinger on plane, and in impact fix position, then I'll fit the left hand in, and interlock.
I grip the club first with my left hand at address and I never really saw any pros doing this until I watched Ogilvy playing in Hawaii this month.
I played with interlocking as a kid because Nicklaus was my idol. When I took the game up again in recent years I've been experimenting with an overlapping grip.
Birdie Chance
And the grip should be taken at an Impact Fixed location for precision alignment
BBax,
Expert advice! This was a big piece of the puzzle for me! Imagine that...a grip that has a relationship with impact conditions! Do you have a routine for taking your grip at fix? Example: I set the club with the shaft lean and clubface angle with my right hand paying attention to the degree of right wrist bend.
Quick question about impact fix. I have become fixated on where the club face is aimed at fix (the direction the ball starts). When I move back to an adjusted address postion I tend to "lose" the clubface. Obviously, with a vertical shaft pointing midbody the clubface now aims left of where it did at fix. Am I overally dependent on the visual cue? I know I can select a variety of fix versions but it seems as though I would be giving up geometry for physics (lagging club head take away.) Is this an example of swinger physics v. hitter's geometry? Right now I am a swinger that has impact hands/club face at address.
Quick question about impact fix. I have become fixated on where the club face is aimed at fix (the direction the ball starts). When I move back to an adjusted address postion I tend to "lose" the clubface. Obviously, with a vertical shaft pointing midbody the clubface now aims left of where it did at fix. Am I overally dependent on the visual cue? I know I can select a variety of fix versions but it seems as though I would be giving up geometry for physics (lagging club head take away.) Is this an example of swinger physics v. hitter's geometry? Right now I am a swinger that has impact hands/club face at address.
" The Wrist is not Level when the Hand is in the 'Karate Chop' position
and the middle finger runs up the Forearm. It is Cocked. Not Cocked to the
Maximum, but Cocked nonetheless. See text and Photo 4-B-2. The Wrist is Level
when the wrist bone and the edge of the hand (to the knuckle of the first
finger) form a straight line. That puts the fingers in a slightly downward
pointing mode, not up the Forearm. See text and Photo 4-B-1.
This post is not meant to nitpick. It is meant to clarify one of the most
important and misunderstood alignments in The Golfing Machine. Hands
positioned with the Wrists Level are noticeably higher than those
positioned in the Cocked ('Karate Chop') Condition. The Level alignment has a
profound influence on the Stroke, particularly the Plane (both its
Angle and Shift Variations); Release Trigger Delay; and the #3
Accumulator Roll through Impact. Bold added by Okie!
This crucial alignment must first be understood. Only then can it be established
at Fix and thus scientifically and reliably reproduced at Impact." - YODA
I could give my convoluted version or just simply quote the best!
10-2-B, Strong Single Action, VVA Vertical-Vertical-Aft . Definition:
Left and Right Wrists are both Vertical to the ground at Impact/Separation and the #3 Pressure Point and Left Thumb are both positioned on the Sweetspot Plane (which is an invisible straight line that starts at the Top-Aft side of the grip and ends on the Sweetspot on the Clubface). The primary feature of this grip is that Cocking the Left Wrist, forces neither Wrist to Bend or Arch, Turn or Roll, nor the Right Wrist to Cock or Uncock; Single Action. The Cocking Left Wrist results from the Bending Right Elbow (see Magic of the Right Forearm).
The comparative advantages of 10-2-B are its On-Plane Lag Pressure for the #1,2 and 3 pressure points, it’s use by both Hitting and Swinging patterns, a Level Right Wrist throughout the Stroke, the precision geometric alignment of the Flying Wedges, the proper amount of Left Wrist Cock, the back of the Left Hand and #3 Pressure Point aiming down the Approach Angle, and the simplicity of its precision set-up which is very repeatable and reliable. It is a discovery of The Golfing Machine, required (preferred and recommended) for both Hitting and Swinging Stroke Patterns and will not be found described or defined anywhere else in Golf-Dom. Notes:
• The Left and Right Wrist are not parallel to each other and neither are the Left and Right Palms Parallel to each other.
• All clubs have an inherent Hook Face design if and only while the Clubshaft is leaning forward; as it should during Impact and Ball Separation.
• Homer Kelley wrote: (underline by Daryl) “The force of the Impact will hold the ball against the face of the orbiting Clubhead and so carry it along the same circular path. This places the ball under the laws of Centrifugal Force. Which requires that the ball leave its circular path at right angles to the radius of that path at the point at which it leaves that path. But the hook-face alignment of the Clubhead – designed to give it the proper relation to the Plane Line – diverts the ball from its true tangential path. This geometric alignment assures full production of straightaway velocity by assuring no glancing action other than for producing backspin. Study 2-J and 2-F.”
Discovering: Left Wrist Vertical
Position the Clubhead on the Ground with its leading edge square to your Target and with the Clubshaft angled on the Clubshaft Plane, then, rest the grip end on a wall (Pic 1) while keeping the Clubshaft Vertical-to-the-ground (not leaning forward). Place a Book (this replaces your left wrist and hand) against the Target side of the Clubshaft Grip with the page edges of the book against the Wall (Pic 2). Look and be aware that the Book Cover is Vertical to the Ground and Perpendicular to the Wall.
Lean the Clubshaft toward the Target 10° but keep the Leading edge of the Clubface square to Target (Pic 3).
The Book is no longer Vertical-to-the-ground but still perpendicular to the wall.
With 10-2-B, the book must be Vertical-to-the-ground with a forward leaning Clubshaft. Rotate the Book to the left while keeping in contact with the Clubs grip until it is Vertical-to-the-ground. Keep the page edges of the Book against the wall (Pic 4). This is the equivalent of “Turning the Left Hand” on the Grip from the G.O.L.Fers perspective.
The cover of the Book is now facing to the right of the target line. This demonstrates the alignment and look of the Vertical and Flat Left Wrist and back of the Left Hand at Impact.
Replace the Book with your Left Hand/Wrist and Look and be aware of the Flatness of the Left Wrist and alignment of the back of your Left Hand. Pic 5
The Back of the Left Hand with its Vertical-to-the-ground Flat Left Wrist is facing to the right of the Target (Right of Center Field). That’s where the Left Hand and Flat Left Wrist should be facing at Impact if that EXACT amount of shaft lean (that amount of Hook Face) is attained with 10-2-B.
• Note: If the Left Hand is Turned on the Grip exactly as the Book to obtain Vertical-to-the-ground, then a Low #3 Accumulator (toward the cup of your left hand) will result (this is perfectly ok). In Fact, you would need to fully Uncock your Left Hand to use a High #3 Accumulator.
Discovering: Placing the Left Thumb
With the Left Hand on the Forward Leaning Clubshaft and your Left Wrist Vertical and Flat, place your Thumb on the Clubshaft (Pic 6). It will automatically land on the Aft Side of the Clubshaft and by simply pointing your Left Thumb at the Sweetspot on the Clubface; it will be on the Sweetspot Plane.
The more you lean the Clubshaft, then the more your Left Hand with Flat Left Wrist faces Right of the Target line at Impact-Fix.
• If you Lean the Clubshaft more than 10° and have a Vertical and Flat Left Wrist, then you are using 10-2-D, Strong Double Action Grip. This has two reasons.
o Cocking the Left Wrist will cause the right Wrist to Bend
o The #3 Pressure Point is on the far Aft Side of the Shaft and no longer on the Sweetspot Plane Line. This is because the Left Thumb has lowered which places the Cup of the Right Hand more level with the Clubshaft. Monitor #2 Pressure Point for Lag feel and you can only use Angled Hinging with a Simultaneous Release.
• Leaning the Clubshaft less than 10° and you risk a Weak Single Action Grip. The #1 and #3 Pressure points will not be exactly on the Sweetspot Plane.
Discovering: Right Wrist Vertical
See Picture #7. When the Left Thumb is on the Sweetspot Plane and the Clubshaft is leaning Forward 10°, then the Left Thumb creates a Vertical to the Ground surface (red line) for the Right Hand Cup to position against. Place the cup of your Right Hand over the Left Thumb and place the Right Forefingers #3 Pressure Point on the Sweetspot Plane. (Pic The Right Hand needs these two contact points to keep it Vertical to the ground. Then wrap your Fingers around the Shaft. Your Right Wrist will be Level.
Completed Grip Pictures
Impact Fix: Pic 9 The Left Hand looks Turned Slightly too far but I didn’t think so at the time of the photo. Adjusted Address: Pic 10
The Right Hand needs these two contact points to keep it Vertical to the ground. Then wrap your Fingers around the Shaft. Your Right Wrist will be Level.
Hybrid Mode
