when swinging I lay the shaft on the plane with the club face flat on the plane. At #2 trigger my left arm is pointed below plane. Because you're on an ELBOW PLANE. To Stop that, trace the Plane Line with the #2 PP.
Therefore my left wrist must be bent. YES
This is causing a problem because I am then searching to correct to vertical an loose consistency. (sort of like the Hogan bent wrist but down at #2 trigger). You're bending the delivery line.
Second, when the sweet spot is laid on the plain and I have established a lag PP shaft sense but then when the sweet spot is rotates my computer starts to guess. These two problems seem to disrupt clean and consistent ball striking when swinging. Please explain further.
When i switch to hitting I get much better direction and contact control. How should a swinger handle these two "problems"? That's the million dollar question.
I do trace the plane from the top. with both #3 pp (feel only no pressure an is on top of club before trigger) and the "butt" of the grip which is as close to #2 pp for tracing as possible. I try and LOOK! LOOK! Look!
I see myself using a plane well above the elbow plane.
I might mention that I am working on basic motion both swing and hit and it is difficult to control lag with basic motion swing but hit has a better means of lag pressure control.
I also have a plane board. Made from 1/2 in insulating foil covered foam. Basic motion hit the shaft stays flat on the plane but basic motion swing (or complete motion) the hossel strikes the plane abter #2 rtrigger and as the sweet spot is rotated to perpendicular to the plane. (about half way between trigger and low point (45 deg. accross plane. I, myself may be oversensative to this mechanics because years ago I did some serious fencing (Epee) and the point is controled by the pads of the index finger.
I thing the two problems are mechanical an exist in all swings because I am at a loss of how to correct them in the geometry.
I do trace the plane from the top. with both #3 pp (feel only no pressure an is on top of club before trigger) and the "butt" of the grip which is as close to #2 pp for tracing as possible. I try and LOOK! LOOK! Look!
I see myself using a plane well above the elbow plane.
I might mention that I am working on basic motion both swing and hit and it is difficult to control lag with basic motion swing but hit has a better means of lag pressure control.
I also have a plane board. Made from 1/2 in insulating foil covered foam. Basic motion hit the shaft stays flat on the plane but basic motion swing (or complete motion) the hossel strikes the plane abter #2 rtrigger and as the sweet spot is rotated to perpendicular to the plane. (about half way between trigger and low point (45 deg. accross plane. I, myself may be oversensative to this mechanics because years ago I did some serious fencing (Epee) and the point is controled by the pads of the index finger.
I thing the two problems are mechanical an exist in all swings because I am at a loss of how to correct them in the geometry.
It sounds really good. It sounds like you have a good grasp of what you're doing and what you're doing sounds good. Maybe the problem is in another component or components?
The first is the Lag pressure swinging for basic motion but I have no figured out how to do that yet.
The second, and it was there all the time, AIMING POINT, I have never understood it and found it of no use until I reread 6-E-2.
I never understood its application was only the line BETWEEN top and trigger (#2swing or #2&3hit) That may be my problem- wrong swing aming piont (without knowing it or why) and therefore continuous search for proper swing mechanics.
Uh, I havent read any of this but Bear, you may have a third problem..........you're talking to D, which leads to Bucket and then Mike O and then me.......not that we arent talking now. Mike's the real trouble maker!
Uh, I havent read any of this but Bear, you may have a third problem..........you're talking to D, which leads to Bucket and then Mike O and then me.......not that we arent talking now. Mike's the real trouble maker!
Not a problem!
I appreciate ALL information,suggestions and comments.
May germinate new thoughts or ideas.
I will take HK best which is LOOK, LOOK, Look at everything.
Because;
There are no bad ideas or comments only nonapplicable (for the situation at hand) "things" at the time.
As an engineer I catalog all I can then Trust but verify for my own application.
I sure do want to get into two current sticky points:
1. How to get energy into basic motion swing? Do i use a #4 but keep it light but through finish?
2. Aiming point- This has opened many thoughts, opportunity for precision etc. I have not formulated questrions yet but they are "Brewing".
First question on Aiming Point
Who has used the Aiming Point? and
How did you develop aiming point into your application?
Can we discuss Aiming Point application please?
Thanks
The Bear
Ahh, the lights are on;
this is the aiming point application; at 3:17
Although he does no state specificly, it is the point at which thrust is directed. Set in the waggle and is graphical represented by a line between top and the trigger point and its distance either in front or behind the ball is therefore dependant on "Pulley size" hand speed and I (moment) of the particular club in use. Therefore a consistent impact hand position. A thing of beauty to be able to put precision into something previously done by experiment and often messed-up
Think I'm on the right thinking track? What say the experienced??
Last edited by HungryBear : 12-16-2009 at 11:31 PM.
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