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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
Last edited by innercityteacher : 03-30-2010 at 11:39 AM.
Nothing wrong with angled hinging either, but it's still player preference. I am a "slinger" from way back, and its a tough habit to change. I can't totally get rid of that action, but I am focusing on getting that club back on plane on the downstroke as much as I can, along with keeping my horizontal hinge.
Patrick, I found long ago, always thought it was a compensation, that I need to set up with the clubface open to solve that hooking problem you are having. I can still focus on down and out with my hinge action, and my preferred ball flight when I was a player was sort of what the S&Ters call a push draw. I LOVE that. Here is what I believe is a great visual for we horizontal hingers at set up.
Kevin
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I could be wrong. I have been before, and will be again.
Good stuff, Kev. Because my worst shot historically had been a push slice, I was always scared to have anything resembling an open face at set up. At my last two range sessions, I manned up and opened the face some, just for kicks. Of course I play with a strong grip, but it didn't slice off the range.
Listen to Kevin and open up the face some, Patrick. You'll be able to keep the HH feel and the distance it's giving you without hooking the heck out of it.
Success has many family members! I was "lifting and chopping" the wrong way trying to chop with the right hand heel pad. The ball really took off but had the slightest fade, so I'll remember that.
I love the idea of HH and an open face (hot turkey sand. lol). I am on page 31 of "Swingers'encyclopedia" and have decided to read it with club in hand. Is HH with a slight open face the "Knuckle fade" of Hogan?
Quick, where is my club (I always have one in my closet at school for lunch break)?
Patrick
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
Success has many family members! I was "lifting and chopping" the wrong way trying to chop with the right hand heel pad. The ball really took off but had the slightest fade, so I'll remember that.
I love the idea of HH and an open face (hot turkey sand. lol). I am on page 31 of "Swingers'encyclopedia" and have decided to read it with club in hand. Is HH with a slight open face the "Knuckle fade" of Hogan?
Quick, where is my club (I always have one in my closet at school for lunch break)?
Patrick
Regardless of the hinging you employ (assuming contact on the sweetspot) the ball fades because the path vector is left of the face vector. So you can hit the left to right spinning shot with any hinge action so long as the above rule isn't violated.
Thanks, I shall and I am looking forward to the experience.
Will vary ball position in the arc also!
Thanks!
Patrick
Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
Regardless of the hinging you employ (assuming contact on the sweetspot) the ball fades because the path vector is left of the face vector. So you can hit the left to right spinning shot with any hinge action so long as the above rule isn't violated.
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
Absolutely . . . the closer you position the ball to low point (closer to left shoulder) the less "out" in the plane . . . has big implications . . . .
In addition how much shaft lean has an effect as well . . . leaning the shaft produces more "out" . . . delofts the face generally . . . and can open the face . . . and increases the angle of attack.
so ball more back = more "out" 'til you get to low point . . . handle forward = more out until you get to low point.
The shaft lean piece (right wrist bend amount) is why Homer didn't make right wrist bend an imperative. The left wrist is always flat . . . but the right wrist bend can will and does vary for ball position and the shot at hand.
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