If I am standing erect with a BRW centered to the middle of my body(no left hand connection) and in a punch elbow position (elbow stationary) then trace the plane line with the right forearm I see this move as a level and maybe a sense of a lateral motion with the right forearm, causing the wrist to move in an arc. Please correct me if I'm wrong but this to me is 'fanning'.
When I connect the left hand to right hand with a SSA grip type then set up to Impact Fix with EA and do the same right forearm tracing as above... means, to me, a (not the) RFT.
If I match that tracing with a pivot and EA, along with the clubhead momentum the right elbow will bend as an effect.
The sequence of clubhead motion would then be back, up and in... as opposed to the right forearm pick up creating more of an up, back and in movement of the clubhead.
I feel that no resistance to rotation is necessary when the right elbow placement is secure at address whether it is in punch, pitch or push. The natural amount of rotation, or lack of, takes place at the right time using any educated elbow postion.
Am I looking at this the wrong way?
Thanks in advance
Yes, I would read section 7-3 repeatly, I suggest three or four times. The motion of the right forearm is an up and down motion, a karate chop motion. The fanning motion is a result of having the left hand on the club...accumulator 3 motion. Read 6-B-3-0. This is a classic....seperate the Facts from the Illusions issue. See VIII.
DG
Last edited by Delaware Golf : 09-01-2010 at 12:08 AM.
Yes, I would read section 7-3 repeatly, I suggest three or four times. The motion of the right forearm is an up and down motion, a karate chop motion. The fanning motion is a result of having the left hand on the club...accumulator 3 motion. Read 6-B-3-0. This is a classic....seperate the Facts from the Illusions issue. See VIII.
DG
I see no contridiction to 7-3, 6-B-3-0 or VIII in my description. The Flying Wedges set precisely when I do it this way.
I am not saying that the right forearm in not an up and down motion. What I am saying is that when the right forearm is moved in a 'level' manner the clubhead moves more so in a back, up and in direction. If I do this with the shaft resting on a bench it works perfectly....no illusion.
That being said, the only true "backward" movement of the clubhead would be found more in the lagging clubhead takeaway.
I totally agree that the right forearm is moving up and down and can be felt like a karate chop action or even that of a hammering action.
As I see it the combination of EA and RFT is fanning such as in the Basic Motion. The combination of EA, RFT and Pivot is fanning plus right elbow bend in the Acquired Motion. If continued further then it moves into Total Motion. The right elbow must bend due to the checkrein of the left arm connection.
The feeling or illusion of being level in the beginning of the movement keeps everything on plane as long as the elbow doesn't move out of its alignment like in a chip shot. And, as long as it doesn't out run the pivot in longer shots.
Thanks Spike. That's where I was trying to go with my poorly worded EA question.
Originally Posted by spike
I see no contridiction to 7-3, 6-B-3-0 or VIII in my description. The Flying Wedges set precisely when I do it this way.
I am not saying that the right forearm in not an up and down motion. What I am saying is that when the right forearm is moved in a 'level' manner the clubhead moves more so in a back, up and in direction. If I do this with the shaft resting on a bench it works perfectly....no illusion.
That being said, the only true "backward" movement of the clubhead would be found more in the lagging clubhead takeaway.
I totally agree that the right forearm is moving up and down and can be felt like a karate chop action or even that of a hammering action.
As I see it the combination of EA and RFT is fanning such as in the Basic Motion. The combination of EA, RFT and Pivot is fanning plus right elbow bend in the Acquired Motion. If continued further then it moves into Total Motion. The right elbow must bend due to the checkrein of the left arm connection.
The feeling or illusion of being level in the beginning of the movement keeps everything on plane as long as the elbow doesn't move out of its alignment like in a chip shot. And, as long as it doesn't out run the pivot in longer shots.
If I add extra strong EA and make that hammering or chopping motion, I then feel like I have very "tight" control of # 3 PP and I then enjoy hitting the begeebers (technical term Daryl and OB may not understand) out of the ball with lots of control and vigor (not Viagra, Daryl, calm down with those skanky pics you've been perusing).
If I just do a "easy" EA, I can't really enjoy the control of # 3 pp like I feel I need to for golfing fun and financial gain. Of course, I don't belong to a fancy club like DARYL, but I do enjoy my modest municipal course where a $2 Nassau is a big deal.
Patrick
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I like the idea of RFT but cannot seem to bring it back along the same plane at impact.
I use a shoulder plane, but geometrical the right forearm seem compatable with the clubshaft plane line at impact.
Is the RFT compatable with a pitch elbow? In other words with RFT do I end up with more punch or pitch or not relevant?
After my own review of the RAS, the right elbow must replace the left shoulder as the swing center. This would be consistent with minor stroke with BAT elbow 10-3-K. Of course it an be used with full motion as you have describe.
You are right this is not for me!
I prefer to have the left arm/elbow swinging and the right arm/elbow driving.
Can anyone illustrate how, geometrically, the right elbow can serve as the swing center in a right arm swinger?
No, because it doesn't.
The Right Elbow serves as the Center of the Stroke only in the Bat Minor Basic Stroke, a 'Hitting' Stroke in which the Club is accelerated radially (from behind the Shaft).
With the Right Arm Swing, the Club is accelerated longitudinally -- lengthwise in the direction it is pointing -- with the Left Shoulder serving as the Center of the arc.
Hybrid Mode
