do feel a steeper shoulder turn is more comaptible w/ hitting vs swinging? We have a nice thread in the swingers forum goin on about the steepness of the BS shoulder turn right now.
Im experimenting as we speak. Ive decide that a neutral turn is best, not quite as steep as S&T but not as flat as the McDonald drills.
do feel a steeper shoulder turn is more comaptible w/ hitting vs swinging? We have a nice thread in the swingers forum goin on about the steepness of the BS shoulder turn right now.
Im experimenting as we speak. Ive decide that a neutral turn is best, not quite as steep as S&T but not as flat as the McDonald drills.
I think it's compatible with either. If I had to choose one, I'd say more compatible with hitting. You're likely to be more upright in the backswing with the arm plane when swinging, flatter with hitting. So the steeper shoulder plane *could* help with getting 'neutral.'
Part of the problem is waist bend with golfers. You get a golfer who is 5'8" tall, using a 46.5" driver and then they wonder why they cannot get their shoulder turn steep enough on the downswing. Well, tough to get waist bend with a driver that long.
Ive noticed as a drive load hitter that the further away I stand (which makes me bend over more) the easier it is to get the shaft on plane at address, and the better my ball striking.
Like you have mentioned before in your blog, most golfers, especially "late bloomers" are better suited to be hitters. I just find it easier to keep everything "right sided" Rt forearm on plane at address, Rt forearm takeaway, rt shoulder down plane, rt hand palm strike w/ #1PP, get rt shoulder to finish pointing at the target...
Ive noticed as a drive load hitter that the further away I stand (which makes me bend over more) the easier it is to get the shaft on plane at address, and the better my ball striking.
Like you have mentioned before in your blog, most golfers, especially "late bloomers" are better suited to be hitters. I just find it easier to keep everything "right sided" Rt forearm on plane at address, Rt forearm takeaway, rt shoulder down plane, rt hand palm strike w/ #1PP, get rt shoulder to finish pointing at the target...
Make sure your wrist conditions are correct when taking the right forearm on plane at address, most people have the left wrist already cocked and to set the right forearm on plane in this condition you have to do some unnatural things.
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Ive noticed as a drive load hitter that the further away I stand (which makes me bend over more) the easier it is to get the shaft on plane at address, and the better my ball striking.
Good point. Yet another of the "bad instruction" list for me...let your arms hang straight down. Builds in wrist cock, low hands, lots of problems (for me, anyway).
Good point. Yet another of the "bad instruction" list for me...let your arms hang straight down. Builds in wrist cock, low hands, lots of problems (for me, anyway).
Though I'm not a hitter this is a really good point. I finally figured out that often my left wrist is not level at address or impact. Getting it level (at least I think it is) has helped a lot, I can get my right forearm on plane now I'm hitting the ball almost as long as before my tinkering while I feel I'm really only using about 50% effort (compared to always trying to knock the snot out of the ball.......helps get to uncocked and max. lever extension).
Though I'm not a hitter this is a really good point. I finally figured out that often my left wrist is not level at address or impact. Getting it level (at least I think it is) has helped a lot, I can get my right forearm on plane now I'm hitting the ball almost as long as before my tinkering while I feel I'm really only using about 50% effort (compared to always trying to knock the snot out of the ball.......helps get to uncocked and max. lever extension).
You fit right in with me and my homeys. We will be working on these same principles the rest of our golfing lives. Mr Maestro, the most important thing I have learned so far, keep it simple. Don't go too deep into the book until you have made sure your wobble doesn't lie in the Imperatives or Essentials. Those are our fundamentals, and it's unbelievable how many lessons I give that don't have to go past them without being extremely helpful to the student, and especially for self diagnosis. I like to make personal swing key lists, along with Homer's Imperatives, Kevin's Imperatives include the level left wrist.
Kevin
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Though I'm not a hitter this is a really good point. I finally figured out that often my left wrist is not level at address or impact. Getting it level (at least I think it is) has helped a lot, I can get my right forearm on plane now I'm hitting the ball almost as long as before my tinkering while I feel I'm really only using about 50% effort (compared to always trying to knock the snot out of the ball.......helps get to uncocked and max. lever extension).
Swing thought for the club championship I think!
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
I'm hitting the ball almost as long as before my tinkering while I feel I'm really only using about 50% effort (compared to always trying to knock the snot out of the ball.......helps get to uncocked and max. lever extension).
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