no back in the upswing

[airair]

Is this what you are saying?

[whip]

not exactly...

[airair]

not exactly...

scary...and confusing ..

Does this have any bearing?

[whip]

yes air, the bit he says about dropping the club or finding a way to separate your left arm from the shoulder at 1:15, he says "it's gonna go forward, the real problem is down" so the point of my thread here is to say it's gonna go back, the real problem here is we gotta get that club up and in on the backstroke it will go back and it will go forward, do not focus on the back and forward instead focus on the up and in and down and out.

[airair]

yes air, the bit he says about dropping the club or finding a way to separate your left arm from the shoulder at 1:15, he says "it's gonna go forward, the real problem is down" so the point of my thread here is to say it's gonna go back, the real problem here is we gotta get that club up and in on the backstroke it will go back and it will go forward, do not focus on the back and forward instead focus on the up and in and down and out.

Perhaps not so scary and confusing after all..

[whip]

Here's a little description of the right forearm pickup, right forearm takeaway for the swinger.

With a light constant pressure that is extensor action, and the right forearm in-line and on plane, the right palm should seek to rotate and lift flat to the plane immediately, the right arm bends as it fans immediately lifting and rotating the hands and clubhead up the plane with extensor. This action cocks the left wrist into the backstroke, all the while the pivot is simply turning with it from the very start. It all goes together and right from the start, straight up and rotational

[airair]

Here's a little description of the right forearm pickup, right forearm takeaway for the swinger.

With a light constant pressure that is extensor action, and the right forearm in-line and on plane, the right palm should seek to rotate and lift flat to the plane immediately, the right arm bends as it fans immediately lifting and rotating the hands and clubhead up the plane with extensor. This action cocks the left wrist into the backstroke, all the while the pivot is simply turning with it from the very start. It all goes together and right from the start, straight up and rotational

Does that mean that it's more of a pick up than a fanning motion?