X you are going about it the best way, starting in Basic Motion and you are asking the best questions, truly. The answers are more complicated than they should seem to be but its worthy of study.
If you dont have the book please buy it, you'll need it to fully understand all of this. The Minor Basic Strokes are defined by arm motions. The Major Basic Strokes are defined by Right Elbow Position. So for a Hitter using Push Basic his
Minor and Major Basic Strokes will have different Right Arm Motions. As if you used your karate thing (right arm Push) for short shots (its one way anyways, not the only way for a Hitter) and a sort of side arm throwing motion for the longer shots with the elbow leading. One purely inline, linear thrust the other more radial, approaching a swingers right elbow position.
In Basic Motion the Hitter and Swingers methods may seem like total polar opposites. This distinction lessens as you move towards longer and longer shots. The Punch Elbow of the Hitter can, for some, get darn close to a Pitch Elbow for instance. Push Basic is a fine method for short shots but underpowered for longer shots where we need a more dynamic throwing motion with the right arm.
Check out Lynn here in this video and the one armed demonstration he makes on what the right arms motion is in Total Motion. Around the 40 second mark or so. Now he wasnt expecting us to look at that microscopicly and I bet if you slowed down the film, his actual swing would show his right elbow to be leading a bit more but I sure wish I noticed that elbow position and arm motion when I was mistakenly trying to use a linear right arm Push in Total Motion.
OB thanks for your replies.i know i'm still in basic motion but its good to learn the whole picture for future reference.at the moment i'm crawling and with time ill be walking then soon ill be running.this is the same process ni matter what you learn and this is fact.
ill def purchase the bible next week but i hear its very technical and takes time to figure out but ill get it for sure
I must apologise for my post above. Tesco's (big grocery store in UK) is doing a deal on a very nice red that normally sells at £8 a bottle. Now it is 3 for £10. I have decided this will be my christmas wine and with my dad have been doing quality control tonight. The first two have been fine, we might open one more to be sure (to be sure, to be sure).
Yes, I had to go through this post several times before submitting it!
And there was I blaming your sudden excursion into literacy on the Black Stuff.
You stick to the flog and leave the technical stuff to us proper wed rine drinkers. Whoops,there I go again.
OB thanks for your replies.i know i'm still in basic motion but its good to learn the whole picture for future reference.at the moment i'm crawling and with time ill be walking then soon ill be running.this is the same process ni matter what you learn and this is fact.
ill def purchase the bible next week but i hear its very technical and takes time to figure out but ill get it for sure
One piece at a time, like the journey you describe above and it will open up for you. You'll love it in the end. A book or riddles, like golf itself. We always knew the truth would be abstract didnt we? Its a damnable game afterall, designed by the devil and played by crazies.
In a 'true' swing the rotation can just happen, thanks to CF and the throw out motion of the pivot. The motion needs to be on plane, and in rhythm.
Most of the time, all but the truest of swingers need to have an action to start or cause the release, to allow it to happen.
Automatic release types can work nicely as well, although I personally find that an automatic release and a 'true' swing at the least have different feels and/or intentions (automatic release for me is a focus on aiming point, vs giving up control to CF in a true swing).
All of that said, you will be in far better shape if you learn to feel the rotation of #3 by doing it actively at first. For many, quite literally as hard as you can rotate it. Try to hook the crap out of it with the left wrist.
you will
Then you can learn the rhythm. The left wrist staying VERTICLE to the ground - which prevents you from having a swivel as hinge action, and no chance of consistent results.
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Simplicity buffs, see 5-0, 1-L, 2-0 A and B 10-2-B, 4-D, 6B-1D, 6-B-3-0-1, 6-C-1, 6-E-2
Per 4-D-0 the release motions refers to the release of Accumulators #2 (the left wrist uncocking) and #3 (the roll where the club closes and eventually catches up with the hands).
In a swinging stroke the release is sequential. Uncocking first and then the roll. The uncocking is a vertical movement (remember that left wrist should be flat and vertical at all times) and right hand pp#3 pressure must therefore be vertical to support the uncocking first. But the roll which appears thereafter is horizontal and therefore pp#3 orientation must change. It will not be horizontal, but down and out at impact. This pp#3 rotation will basically happen by itself as long as the right hand doesn't go outside it's mandate, which is basically providing structural support that enables the pivot to drive the club through.
In a hitting stroke you put your right hand in the driving seat. You can't do a vertical uncocking first and then start the rolling - and get away with it. You want PP #3 to do the same thing throughout the downstroke. A steady on-plane thrust. And that can only happen with a pp#3 that is on-plane at all times.
In other words: No pp#3 rotation for hitters but pp#3 rotation for swingers. The difference is very easy felt at the top as soon as there is a hint of loading action. And disaster waits if you don't get the loading correct.
What I meant by "rotation (or not) of pp#3 doesn't just happen" was that different alignments are required for hitting and swinging. It is described in 7-3. But I don't understand that chapter properly. So if someone would care to explain it would be nice.
Whoops,there I go again.
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