Magic of the right forearm - Definition

The Golfing Machine - Basic

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-26-2008, 11:59 AM
Jeff Jeff is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 701
Magic of the right forearm - Definition
I have seen this term "magic of the right forearm" used frequently.

Does it have a precise definition or is it a vague term that people use to describe different right forearm actions/functions?

In particular, is the term related to the right forearm's directional movement in the backswing and/or downswing and/or only pre-impact?

Jeff.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-26-2008, 06:33 PM
pistol pistol is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 159
Originally Posted by Jeff View Post
I have seen this term "magic of the right forearm" used frequently.

Does it have a precise definition or is it a vague term that people use to describe different right forearm actions/functions?

In particular, is the term related to the right forearm's directional movement in the backswing and/or downswing and/or only pre-impact?

Jeff.
Illusion of magic from a garage!! plenty world class players without right forearm on plane. Well yeah on plane to what ? which plane ? what about airplane that could work
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-26-2008, 06:41 PM
Burner's Avatar
Burner Burner is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: England
Posts: 626
Originally Posted by Jeff View Post
I have seen this term "magic of the right forearm" used frequently.

Does it have a precise definition or is it a vague term that people use to describe different right forearm actions/functions?

In particular, is the term related to the right forearm's directional movement in the backswing and/or downswing and/or only pre-impact?

Jeff.
Jeff,

Study 7-3 Strokes-Basic to acquaint yourself with the MAGIC OF THE RIGHT FOREARM.
__________________
IB

"My only handicap is me!!!"
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-26-2008, 08:01 PM
Jeff Jeff is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 701
Burner

I have studied 7:3 and I can idenitify two important facts re: the right forearm.

Fact 1

Top of the backswing - the right forearm is positioned perpendicular to the "on plane loading of the primary lever assembly" in hitters and the "on plane loading of the secondary lever assembly" in swingers.

Fact 2

The right forearm must be driven into impact (hitters) or thrown into impact (swingers) on-plane = pointing at the plane line as the angle of attack. In hitters, there is also an "angle of approach" and the right forearm must leave impact fix alignment along this "angle of approach" during the right forearm takeaway and return along this "angle of approach" in the late downswing.

Is that correct. Are there more insights?

Jeff.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-28-2008, 07:31 PM
Burner's Avatar
Burner Burner is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: England
Posts: 626
Originally Posted by Jeff View Post
Burner

I have studied 7:3 and I can idenitify two important facts re: the right forearm.

Fact 1

Top of the backswing - the right forearm is positioned perpendicular to the "on plane loading of the primary lever assembly" in hitters and the "on plane loading of the secondary lever assembly" in swingers.

Fact 2

The right forearm must be driven into impact (hitters) or thrown into impact (swingers) on-plane = pointing at the plane line as the angle of attack. In hitters, there is also an "angle of approach" and the right forearm must leave impact fix alignment along this "angle of approach" during the right forearm takeaway and return along this "angle of approach" in the late downswing.

Is that correct. Are there more insights?

Jeff.
Jeff,

Correct? I really don't know without re-reading 7-3 in light of what you are saying .

More insights? Again, I really have nothing more to offer at this stage.

I would have to revisit the text with your thought in mind and get a little more analytical before I could offer arguments that might suit your purpose.

Perhaps there are other cyber correspondents who could engage you in this subject.

For my part, I am happy to simply accept Mr Kelley's offerings until I am sure that he and I are at divergence, in which event I would refer to the Trustee of his legacy - Yoda.
__________________
IB

"My only handicap is me!!!"
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-28-2008, 08:38 PM
Dariusz J.'s Avatar
Dariusz J. Dariusz J. is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Poland
Posts: 60
Jeff, the magic of the right forearm means for me (not full-time TGMer) that your right (rear) forearm bones can act alongside (paralelly) to the shaft - sort of being the elongation of the shaft....especially approaching and executing impact. Think: nunchakoo sticks - your right forearm is the upper stick, your wrist is the chain and your shaft is the lower stick. Forget about the grip in this visualization.

Cheers
__________________
Dariusz
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-28-2008, 11:38 PM
Jeff Jeff is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 701
Dariusz

I fully agree that the right forearm should be "on-plane"' at impact and aligned behind the shaft along the elbow plane. However, I think that the right forearm also has "magic" throughout the downswing. It not only acts (together with the bent right wrist and PP#3) to direct the clubshaft into impact, but it also acts to keep the clubshaft on plane throughout the entire downswing. I think that's also part of its "magic". Also, if one uses a right forearm takeaway, it is possible for the right forearm (through its three dimensional motion in space) to keep the clubshaft on-plane during the backswing. That means that the right forearm has "magic" in the backswing as well. That's why I was posing this question - I am trying to understand the conceptual extent of the "magic of the right forearm" in different golfer's minds.

Jeff.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-29-2008, 12:20 AM
Yoda's Avatar
Yoda Yoda is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Posts: 10,681
Supporting On Plane Motion
Originally Posted by Jeff View Post

. . . I think that the right forearm also has "magic" throughout the downswing. It not only acts (together with the bent right wrist and PP#3) to direct the clubshaft into impact, but it also acts to keep the clubshaft on plane throughout the entire downswing. I think that's also part of its "magic".

[Additional bold emphasis by Yoda.]
Right you are, Jeff (as usual, after your own 'proof positives'). Moreover, the Right Forearm supports the On Plane Loading and Release motions of the Sweetspot (and #3 Pressure Point / Right Forefinger) without itself being On Plane.
__________________
Yoda
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-29-2008, 07:01 AM
knob333 knob333 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 17
Originally Posted by Yoda View Post
Right you are, Jeff (as usual, after your own 'proof positives'). Moreover, the Right Forearm supports the On Plane Loading and Release motions of the Sweetspot (and #3 Pressure Point / Right Forefinger) without itself being On Plane.
Besides the supporting role, at which points exactly MUST the right forearm also be on plane and at which points is it "allowed" to depart from being on plane, assuming it will not compromise its supporting roll ?
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-29-2008, 10:50 AM
drewitgolf's Avatar
drewitgolf drewitgolf is offline
Lynn Blake Certified Senior Instructor
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,334
Right On
Originally Posted by knob333 View Post
Besides the supporting role, at which points exactly MUST the right forearm also be on plane and at which points is it "allowed" to depart from being on plane, assuming it will not compromise its supporting roll ?
The Right Forearm will be on Plane when the Right Elbow is On Plane; Release to Follow Through.
__________________
Drew

Let Your Motion Make the Shot.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:13 AM.


Design by Vjacheslav Trushkin, color scheme by ColorizeIt!.