#3 Location

[phillygolf]

I have a question.

I am as big a TGM fan as anyone. I remember 4 years ago when it was just me, Todd, Randy, PB (whom btw knows the book as well as anyone this side of Yoda), Chuck and a select few others. So...trust me, this question is not meant to be negative.

But seriously.

How many on here can actually Feel a rotating lag pressure point? Please - everyone respond.


Thanks.

[6bmike]

Well it doesn't rotate its position on the shaft- the contact remains the same (is that a zeppelin tune?). Its relative position to the swing plane changes with either single or standard wrist action.

And a quarter turn isn’t a slight move- it is all the wrist can move – 90 * – so it goes from parallel to perpendicular.

Is this right?

[EdZ]

I have a question.

I am as big a TGM fan as anyone. I remember 4 years ago when it was just me, Todd, Randy, PB (whom btw knows the book as well as anyone this side of Yoda), Chuck and a select few others. So...trust me, this question is not meant to be negative.

But seriously.

How many on here can actually Feel a rotating lag pressure point? Please - everyone respond.


Thanks.

I can, certainly on full shots when swinging. The startup swivel and 'end' are the two key areas IMO.

[wanole]

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[tongzilla]

After what has been discussed, I think the keys to this 'top of the shaft loading feel' is:

• Drag Loading
• Standard Wrist Action on Downstroke

The reason I didn't include Startup Swivel (or Standard Wrist Action on Backstroke) and End Assembly Point is because they are not mandatory for this quater turn feel in loading pressure, even though they are very compatible.

[birdie_man]

I know that everything is rotating...but I personally don't really feel it (or sense it consciously) in PP3....I would think that I sense the rotation more in my left arm, left hand, and left wrist (left wrist = clubface). I use PP3 mostly to trace the plane line (if I'm using RFT) and I guess more subconsciously to sustain lag.

BTW, I thought left hand was clubFACE, right hand (which includes PP3) was clubHEAD?

[Yoda]

After what has been discussed, I think the keys to this 'top of the shaft loading feel' is:

• Drag Loading
• Standard Wrist Action on Downstroke

The reason I didn't include Startup Swivel (or Standard Wrist Action on Backstroke) and End Assembly Point is because they are not mandatory for this quarter turn feel in loading pressure, even though they are very compatible.

You are making remarkable progress, Leo. Three thumbs up!

[Yoda]

BTW, I thought left hand was clubFACE, right hand (which includes PP3) was clubHEAD?

The Left Hand and its Hinge Action is Clubface Alignment/Ball Control (Component #10). It is in operation from Impact to the end of the Follow-Through (Both Arms Straight position). The Flat Left Wrist is held Vertical to one of the three Associated Planes (Horizontal, Angled or Vertical). This is an Arm Motion and not a true Rotation of the Hand.

The Right Hand and its #3 Pressure Point (Forefinger or First Knuckle or, if Rotating, both) is Clubhead Lag/Thrust Control (Component #11). It is in operation from the Start Down Loading to the Finish. The Lag Pressure is totally inert and never 'Released'.

The Left Wrist and its Turn and Roll is Clubhead Rotational/On Plane Control (Component #18 ). This Wrist Action is in operation prior-to-Impact. In the Swinger's Standard Wrist Action -- a Swivel Action -- it is a true rotation of the Hand independent of Arm Motion.

[ChrisNZ]

The Left Hand and its Hinge Action is Clubface Alignment/Ball Control (Component #10). It is in operation from Impact to the end of the Follow-Through (Both Arms Straight position). The Flat Left Wrist is held Vertical to one of the three Associated Planes (Horizontal, Angled or Vertical). This is an Arm Motion and not a true Rotation of the Hand.

I think I'm only beginning to really understand hinge action (I've been swivelling through impact). A couple of questions:

(1) If hinge action is an arm motion, does that mean that the hands (during the impact interval to follow through) come through flatter with horizontal hinging, more upright with vertical hinging and somewhere in between with angled hinging? In an ideal horizontal hinge would your hands trace a path basically parallel to the horizontal plane (for all intents and purposes the ground) through this interval? Is that a closing only action hinge?

(2) Should the swinger feel a definite end to the swivel into impact alignments? Is there a stopping of the swivelling roll feel?

Thanks,
Chris

(By the way, it was only after seeing Collin's video that hinging (as opposed to swivelling) really started making sense to me - fantastic)

[EdZ]

I think I'm only beginning to really understand hinge action (I've been swivelling through impact). A couple of questions:

(1) If hinge action is an arm motion, does that mean that the hands (during the impact interval to follow through) come through flatter with horizontal hinging, more upright with vertical hinging and somewhere in between with angled hinging? In an ideal horizontal hinge would your hands trace a path basically parallel to the horizontal plane (for all intents and purposes the ground) through this interval? Is that a closing only action hinge?

(2) Should the swinger feel a definite end to the swivel into impact alignments? Is there a stopping of the swivelling roll feel?

Thanks,
Chris

(By the way, it was only after seeing Collin's video that hinging (as opposed to swivelling) really started making sense to me - fantastic)

1) Certainly the 'feel' of a proper horizontal hinge action is IMO a very 'horizontal' feeling - that of a closing door - a 'level frisbee toss' - this should not disrupt the fact that impact is DOWNward.

2) The 'roll' is imparted by the PIVOT. Uncock (on plane) then Roll (via the pivot throw out action). The uncock is a 'downward on plane' motion, the plane of the left wristcock, the left wedge. If CF is being used properly, the 'true swinger' will find that nothing must be done with the HANDS to produce 'roll' - simply uncocking and pivoting properly.