Keep in mind when talking about a swinger's release there is first 'uncock' and then 'roll'.
CF causes the 'uncock' - and then the hinge is in position.
The 'throw out' (pivot) - causes the 'roll' and then the clubface is aligned for impact
Very interesting points but I am in enough trouble at this thread I think so I wont Anger the HK gods but U might notice the "sequenced release" thread I am part of a couple (4) subjects above. LBG/Fundamentals
HB
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It may be productive to delete the #2 and #3 Accumulators.
Using Basic Motion.
Throw-Out? Yes (#4 Accumulator) CF
Reaction Force? No (#2 Accumulator)
Roll? Yes (Orbiting Arms)
Overtaking? No (Zero #3 Accumulator)
Clubface Alignment? Yes
At Impact Fix the Clubface was Aligned to the Target Line
The Flat, Vertical and Level Left Wist was Aligned to the Clubface
Monitor the Hands. The Clubface cannot be Monitored. Don't Jack the Hands to return to Impact Alignment. Change, adjust or increase the precision of your Pattern Components or procedures until the Hands Return to their Impact Alignments.
It may be productive to delete the #2 and #3 Accumulators.
Using Basic Motion.
Throw-Out? Yes (#4 Accumulator) CF
Reaction Force? No (#2 Accumulator)
Roll? Yes (Orbiting Arms)
Overtaking? No (Zero #3 Accumulator)
Clubface Alignment? Yes
At Impact Fix the Clubface was Aligned to the Target Line
The Flat, Vertical and Level Left Wist was Aligned to the Clubface
Monitor the Hands. The Clubface cannot be Monitored. Don't Jack the Hands to return to Impact Alignment. Change, adjust or increase the precision of your Pattern Components or procedures until the Hands Return to their Impact Alignments.
2 questions
What is "jack" the hands?
How is #4 powered for "basic" motion?
May I remind everybody that this is a thread on Grip Types...
Like I said in the first post, I have a number of questions on 7-2. So here's my second question:
Quote:
The back of the Flat Left Wrist and the Lag Pressure Point (6-C-2-0) BOTH facing down the Angle of Approach (Alternate Target Line 2-J-3). Otherwise, per 7-3, both must face down the Right Forearm Impact Fix Alignment regardless of the true Angle of Approach (2-J-3 and 7-5).
The first sentence seems to refer to the Clubhead Angle of Approach (the straight line through Impact Point and Low Point, as illustrated in 2-C-1 #3). Whereas the second sentence seems to refer to the Right Forearm Angle of Approach.
So don't these two sentences contradict one another? One calling for the true Angle of Approach and the other for disregarding it? Or what is the meaning of "otherwise" here?
Mike O. Id love to see your "when I get more time" thoughts . Post #15.
This relates to my geometry thread. I wanna draw 7-2 out , see if it makes things clearer than words. Ill draw manipulated hands swingers using rotated plane lines and grip rotation . Ill move the ball around in the stance.
I did some "sweet spot" stuff down in the lab a while back.
I proposed a "hang the club on a thread" experiment here not long ago.
I have debunked the "sweet spot" is aligned by cf numbers of times.
There is no magic physics that align the clubface all by itself.
CF takes place on a FLAT incline plane and provides NOTHING significant that rotates the club/clubface about anything (the shaft or cog axis) lying on that plane.
Like to hear your opinion
hb
I didn't understand your A and B - so tough for me to identify your point and know if I agree or don't. Here's my thought - as an object rotates in a circle - if the pull is strong enough then the object's center of mass will align itself to the center of rotation and maintain a constant relationship to that center as it rotates in a circle. So it's not closing or opening IN RELATION TO THE CENTER OF ROTATION - however for example in the golf swing it is opening (on the backswing) and closing (on the downswing)in relation to the ball/target.
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Mike O. Id love to see your "when I get more time" thoughts . Post #15.
This relates to my geometry thread. I wanna draw 7-2 out , see if it makes things clearer than words. Ill draw manipulated hands swingers using rotated plane lines and grip rotation . Ill move the ball around in the stance.
O.B.-
As you know - there is no way that any one could try to follow "everyone's" posts on this thread or forum and integrate them all - in order to understand "the Golfing Machine". So many different perspectives, not fully explained (for various reasons), seldom are posts clarified to denote whether they describe a Golfing Machine concept, a perceived Golfing Machine concept, or an elaboration or interpretation, or new original thought. Now, I include any of my posts in that description. If I were trying to learn from this forum I'd definitely pick one person and try to ask questions of them until I understood what they were saying. I certainly don't have the time to be one of those. So, given the number of conversations and perspectives I wasn't going to add another voice to this thread
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Question #2 May I remind everybody that this is a thread on Grip Types...
Like I said in the first post, I have a number of questions on 7-2. So here's my second question:
Quote:
The back of the Flat Left Wrist and the Lag Pressure Point (6-C-2-0) BOTH facing down the Angle of Approach (Alternate Target Line 2-J-3). Otherwise, per 7-3, both must face down the Right Forearm Impact Fix Alignment regardless of the true Angle of Approach (2-J-3 and 7-5).
The first sentence seems to refer to the Clubhead Angle of Approach (the straight line through Impact Point and Low Point, as illustrated in 2-C-1 #3). Whereas the second sentence seems to refer to the Right Forearm Angle of Approach.
So don't these two sentences contradict one another? One calling for the true Angle of Approach and the other for disregarding it? Or what is the meaning of "otherwise" here?
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Because:
Hinge type - angled v. horizontal
Elbow position - punch v. pitch
Power application - swing v. hit
#3 pp - fixed v. roll
And all the ot6her alignment create the "otherwise"
Go to 6-H-0 and the shopping lists.
What may seem a simple question in fact requires a (the) book to answer.
Remembering the hands are the command post and the only way to communicate with the club- via. the grip.;
So it may look as if your thread is hijacked when in fact a very small part has been covered.
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