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Old 06-03-2008, 10:54 AM
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The non-automatic release action
I would like to gain some insight into how golfers consciously control a non-automatic release action.

HK describes different types of release action (eg. sweep, random, snap) and states that each type can be automatic or non-automatic.

I can understand an automatic random release action occurring at a certain point in the downswing, and being dependent on the aiming point, and therefore the size/location of the pulley of the endless belt effect.

However, I cannot understand what golfers do when they use a non-automatic random release pattern. Non-automatic implies conscious decision-making. So, i) how does a golfer decide when to release his club when employing a non-automatic random release pattern, and ii) how does he execute it from an anatomical/biomechanical perspective?

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Old 06-03-2008, 05:14 PM
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I would like to gain some insight into how golfers consciously control a non-automatic release action.

HK describes different types of release action (eg. sweep, random, snap) and states that each type can be automatic or non-automatic.

I can understand an automatic random release action occurring at a certain point in the downswing, and being dependent on the aiming point, and therefore the size/location of the pulley of the endless belt effect.

However, I cannot understand what golfers do when they use a non-automatic random release pattern. Non-automatic implies conscious decision-making. So, i) how does a golfer decide when to release his club when employing a non-automatic random release pattern, and ii) how does he execute it from an anatomical/biomechanical perspective?



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Automatic random release pattern, called a ‘true swinger,’ although not a ‘correct’ swinger- relies on a one ball position by club- just before the low point of the swing. This ‘true’ swinger pattern’ relies on “non-control” of the clubhead and clubface. Let it rip as the laws of physics dictates. A non-automatic random release pattern returns control of the release, ball position and clubface. With control comes responsibility. Better Educated Hands and knowledge of the circle is required or you get a less then optimum ball flight.

I'll let others fill in your questions- I have to get back to work.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:11 PM
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That was a bit of a teaser reply - stating that a non-automatic release pattern represents better control, without supplying details of how it is executed.



I am open to becoming better educated re: this issue.

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Old 06-03-2008, 11:18 PM
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Could be wrong on this one Jeff but I think Homer essentially would say with a automatic release there is no "conscious" trigger or no "starting to hit."

Whereas with a non-automatic release there is a conscious triggering or "hit it now" deal. This would be done with the selected Throw. You can basically "start" your release anywhere in the downstroke . . . early or late. I'd say the more trigger delay present the more you'd want to have an automatic release.

As far as the biomechanics . . . whatever throw you select I reckon you'd fire that component and the musklez related to them joints.

I think many read more into to auto vs. non-auto . . . it's just starting to release vs. never consciously releasing.
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Old 06-04-2008, 12:54 AM
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Thanks for rendering an opinion.

Unfortunately, I cannot understand your position.

You write-: "Whereas with a non-automatic release there is a conscious triggering or "hit it now" deal. This would be done with the selected Throw. You can basically "start" your release anywhere in the downstroke . . . early or late."

You seem to be implying that when a golfer triggers the downswing with a selected throw (eg. right shoulder throw) that the downswing triggering action also triggers the release in a non-automatic manner. I cannot understand this point. From my perspective, a trigger starting the downswing pivot action cannot be the same trigger used to trigger a non-automatic release. For example, I happen to chose a right shoulder throw maneuver to trigger my downswing pivot action, but my release happens automatically (what 6b mike implies is an "uncontrolled" release). In other words, I cannot understand how there can be an ironclad causal connection between a downswing pivot action trigger and a non-automatic release action. Could you please expand on this point?

Also, you state that the non-automatic release could theoretically be activated anywhere in the downswing. That seems to be inherently true of the phrase "non-automatic". Then, how can the selected throw be the causative event if the selected throw occurs at the very start of the downswing, but the chosen non-automatic release occurs much later in the downswing?

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Old 06-04-2008, 09:10 AM
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Thanks for rendering an opinion.

Unfortunately, I cannot understand your position.

You write-: "Whereas with a non-automatic release there is a conscious triggering or "hit it now" deal. This would be done with the selected Throw. You can basically "start" your release anywhere in the downstroke . . . early or late."

You seem to be implying that when a golfer triggers the downswing with a selected throw (eg. right shoulder throw) that the downswing triggering action also triggers the release in a non-automatic manner. I cannot understand this point. From my perspective, a trigger starting the downswing pivot action cannot be the same trigger used to trigger a non-automatic release. For example, I happen to chose a right shoulder throw maneuver to trigger my downswing pivot action, but my release happens automatically (what 6b mike implies is an "uncontrolled" release). In other words, I cannot understand how there can be an ironclad causal connection between a downswing pivot action trigger and a non-automatic release action. Could you please expand on this point?

Also, you state that the non-automatic release could theoretically be activated anywhere in the downswing. That seems to be inherently true of the phrase "non-automatic". Then, how can the selected throw be the causative event if the selected throw occurs at the very start of the downswing, but the chosen non-automatic release occurs much later in the downswing?

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Gotta run to Raleighwood this morning . . . I'll get you some book quotes tonight and we'll hash this out.

I went through this in my mind once as well and need to brush up on it. But basically with an automatic release the effort is NOT to release anything.

I'll get back witcha.
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