David Orr - The Right Forearm Takeaway

[Yoda]

Bossman . . . could you describe what is going on in the Angled Line Delivery Paths from a DOWN THE LINE VIEW? I'm not smelling it from the face on pic as in 10-23-B. Does Angled Line have a Straight Line portion?

The Delivery Paths (10-23) have their 'down-the-line' equivalents in the Plane Angle Variations (10-7).

Straight Line Paths (10-23-A and 10-23-C) imply a Zero Shift Plane Angle (10-7-A). Angled Line Paths (10-23-B and 10-23-D) imply Single and Double Shift Plane Angles (10-7-B and 10-7-C).

The Straight Line portion of an Angled Line Path occurs on the Elbow Plane (in both directions).

[nuke99]

Master Annikan Skywalker.

I have a question though that is related to the takeaway and your Pivot. I think you are an expert in this area since you had posted 2 very intriging posts in this area.

We got the Upper chest and the Abdomen area and the Hip Area.

The question is , when you do the right forearm takeaway, Which of this area would you think of flexing more?

If you flex more at the upper shoulder point. You get a look like the shoulder (chest) and upper spine looks more rounded and stressed

If you flex more at the abdominal section, You get a look like Tiger wood. Pretty squared or relaxed shoulder on the top..

If you flex more at the hip. you get a more Sam snead/bendoyle relaxed torso look.

Do you think this make any structural or dynamic difference in Swinging or Hitting . Body controlled or Hand controlled Pivot?

Thanks.. Sorry I think sometime I over analyse thing.Or i may be speculating what i am guessing. but I am really curious what you think !

[annikan skywalker]

Great Question..Nuke..I really do not know the answer...I'd have to think about it over a period of time....

Annikan- do you think they are ready for DNA?

Honestly ...No...There are parts of the clip ...I wish I'd do over...


BUT....send me the????

[nuke99]

Bleh .. sounds like I asked a silly question ..

anyway... I thought when i in my shower ... ( swinging and testing in my shower .. something else besides my arm is swinging!)

The section which enable you to turn the most smoothly is the best "flex" location.

Say you got a big tummy. dont flex at the abominal instead use the upper chest or the hips.

If you are Old and it hurts to move your torso.. Use the Hips more.

But if you are really fit , I truly think the abdomen flex is the best. Because it have the most softest tissue and it enable us to swing the smoothest possible. And the Upper arms alignments is the easiest to be intacted this way?

On another hand, I saw somewhere its sometime good to Lock your spine using the axis tilt on the way down... well, I am not an expert.. Just a Noob trying to have some fun challenging the idea.

Just a thought. what do you think about my deduction , Am i daydreaming ?

[Yoda]

Are there any changes to the low point plane line when there is a plane shift? If so, are there any ramifications?

The Low Point Plane Line and the Impact Plane Line are always parallel lines on the face of the same Inclined Plane. During a Plane Shift, the Plane 'tilts' to its new Angle around its axis of rotation, the immovable Impact Plane Line (1-L-18 ). Thus, the Low Point Plane Line is re-located to conform with the new Angle. That is, it moves more 'out and up' with a Shift to a Flatter Plane and more 'in and down' with a Shift to a more Upright Plane.

Regarding ramifications, the Geometry of the Circle (Clubhead Orbit) remains the same: Per 1-L-13, "The Clubhead travels Down-and-Out until it reaches its Low Point." But, since "Divots are taken 'Down and Out' -- not just Down" (1-L-14), a Shift to a Flatter Plane results in a more shallow Divot. Conversely, a Shift to a more Upright Plane produces a deeper Divot.

[lagster]

I agree... Nice Post!!!

Some pictures from down-the-line would be nice here... that clearly show these things.

Do you see the Angle Line Delivery Paths as more of a NATURAL or INATE thing... or do you teach this to some?

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Do you believe the Angled Line Delivery Paths are a "NATURAL" thing, and should probably not intentionally be attempted, or manipulated?

Or... is the FEEL of a Straight Line... even when an Angled Line happens?

[CalSr]

How would use an actual plane as a training tool when there is a plane shift from elbow plane to turned shoulder plane? (10-6a to 10-6b) I have been trying to build a plane similar to the one pictured in a previous post showing Yoda several years earlier.

CalSr

[Yoda]

Do you believe the Angled Line Delivery Paths are a "NATURAL" thing, and should probably not intentionally be attempted, or manipulated?

Or... is the FEEL of a Straight Line... even when an Angled Line happens?

Starting on the Elbow Plane is a natural movement. As is Shifting to the Turned Shoulder Plane during the Backstroke. In fact, staying on the Elbow Plane produces an extremely Flat Backstroke and is, in my opinion, an unnatural movement.

Regarding "Feel," the Thrust remains a Straight Line effort with all Delivery Paths, i.e., Straight Line, Angled Line and even Circle (6-E-2).

[Yoda]

How would use an actual plane as a training tool when there is a plane shift from elbow plane to turned shoulder plane? (10-6a to 10-6b) I have been trying to build a plane similar to the one pictured in a previous post showing Yoda several years earlier.

If you are going to build a full Plane Board, you need to make it adjustable. Train Start up and early Backstroke on the Elbow Plane, then adjust the Plane Angle to Turned Shoulder.

We did some work like this at my recent Academy in Germany. Some photos were taken of this process, but not by me. I'll see if I can't get the photos and put them up.

Readers who have access to the Explanar training device have it a bit easier. You can set the Explanar to the Turned Shoulder Plane Angle and, with the Clubshaft lying on the circular frame, still enjoy a 'normal' Address position. This arrangement permits the Hands and Clubshaft to begin their journey on the Elbow Plane and gradually make their way without incident to the Turned Shoulder Plane. See the photos of Brian Gay using the Explanar in post #90, Photos #13-15 http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...?t=2383&page=9.

[cpwindow4]

clean with the right arm....Like a Cat
(the right arm move)
Not to forget it won 3 tour events this year.