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Old 02-13-2008, 01:38 PM
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Would this qualify as "UNRELATED jibber jabber?"
I kinda like the unrelated jibber jabber and if you pay attention, you may just find some related jibber jabber that may work for someone on the forum. Remember that you may speak your opinion of the so called jibber jabber, but don't paint everyone with a broad brush. I have been to some very serious forums and they don't seem to last very long, people lose interest without some entertainment. Now I have also been to some forums that provide much entertainment without any of the content that bucket and "o" provide. I personally think they are a very valuable asset to this forum. Please don't tell them I said that!!!

I personally love your posts with regard to TT. I love that you have generously provided materials from such a great teacher, but we should all be open to differing ideas and procedures without getting upset at another's views!!

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Not one to fight...but!
Sorry...I can't resist!

1) I love the TT "bone of contention" it challenges what we think v. what we know.
2) A forum with no psychological air (humor) is generally short lived. Why? No one cares about it beyond what they can siphon from it. I have noticed a lot of lurkers on the member's list. My conscience forced me to post. My contributions are not sufficient payment (in a recognizable or desirable currency!)...but Yoda deserves that at the very least.
3) There is not such thing as sophisticated humor. I don't do vulgar...carte blanche for the rest. If it were say...me...posting one juvenile tirade after the next I would agree with you...but it is guys that have given us both a few laughs as well as a great deal of substance.
4) Ferreting through the junior high antics is a small price to pay, don't you think?
5) I do not have many faces to match to names, but I do have a few marginal personalities earmarked! We seldom learn from strangers. Relationship is the conduit of learning. I respect TT because he obviously understood that, as you well know.

6) I value Delaware Golf's contribution to this...the BEST site in golfdom.

DISCLAIMER: I have been advised from legal counsel and my cognitive therapist that reading Bucket and Mike O posts (the puerile variety) will detrimentally impact my intelligence quotient.
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Settle down and play nice.

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Upp,
I think we're just about back to regular programming! Onward we go!
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Old 02-13-2008, 03:10 PM
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Bucket is wearing me down and out with on the Pivot Alignment thread.

I would like your assistance, please! Thank you.

Respectfully,

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Old 02-13-2008, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by YodasLuke View Post
Science blows holes in this TT, forearm, maximum power theory.

Firstly, I have seen ZERO data in ANY of the 3-D imaging technology that supports the theory about the forearms starting the downstroke. So, you can choose to believe the theory and ignore the data or believe the data and ignore the theory.

Secondly, it ruins the sequencing and summation of the proper stretch-shorten cycles of the involved muscle groups.

If you still choose to believe that the world is flat, the rest of Tommy's work will be considered a bunch of garbage. And, that's not the case; because, Tommy had a lot to offer.

Have no clue what you're talking about...

Again....TGM....Whipcracking 9-2 (reference the #6 DVD of the new Tomasello video series). 6-B-2-0 The Second Power Accumulator....muscles of both forearms....are available to actuate this Assembly. "Homer Kelley".

I work for Boeing as did Homer.....we do lots of testing. No data probably means exactly that...no 3-D technology test of a forearm type swing.

You all might be disappointed.....on the new DVD series, Tomasello still holds firmly that a swing that starts with the lower body is not desirable. Why might you ask....more potential for error. Tomasello even references Jack Nicklaus as hitting bad shots due to a lower body swing.

I recommend all of the doubters attempt to get a copy of the #6, #9 and #10 DVD's there is some really good stuff on there....Tomasello talking about the skins game and the players putting their own money on the line is classic...now, I'll listen to something like that....good story telling and humorous.


I'm done...

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There are basically two claims here
1. There is too much jibber jabber
2. We need jibber jabber.
The answer lies somewhere in between. To appeal to the majority we need a balance of jibber jabber and more serious content. As human nature runs true to form, people will differ as to where the balance point should be. However if the pendulum swings too far one way or the other over the bell curve, it will effect a greater number of members and more will be dissatisfied.

Personally, I prefer the more serious content and find irrelevant posts time consuming (Time and its tyranny: Nobody has enough; everybody has all there is. Yoda) but realize this is a price that must be paid in this forum - which does not mean I don’t enjoy the occasional belly laughs which proliferate here.

Balance – we need balance.
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Old 02-13-2008, 11:05 PM
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Have no clue what you're talking about...

Again....TGM....Whipcracking 9-2 (reference the #6 DVD of the new Tomasello video series). 6-B-2-0 The Second Power Accumulator....muscles of both forearms....are available to actuate this Assembly. "Homer Kelley".

I work for Boeing as did Homer.....we do lots of testing. No data probably means exactly that...no 3-D technology test of a forearm type swing.

You all might be disappointed.....on the new DVD series, Tomasello still holds firmly that a swing that starts with the lower body is not desirable. Why might you ask....more potential for error. Tomasello even references Jack Nicklaus as hitting bad shots due to a lower body swing.

I recommend all of the doubters attempt to get a copy of the #6, #9 and #10 DVD's there is some really good stuff on there....Tomasello talking about the skins game and the players putting their own money on the line is classic...now, I'll listen to something like that....good story telling and humorous.


I'm done...

Back to regular programming...


DG
If he starts down by pulling the Arms, then is he bracing the turn with the right leg as a backstop? I sure he has too. There is a discussion in another thread about Left Leg Vs. Right Leg. I'm on the side of the Right Leg. I think that almost all are. That would be interesting because IMHO you would brace with your Right Leg before the Turning Motion just as one would do in a Non-Pivot Stroke.

Which DVD is this information on?
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Old 02-13-2008, 11:52 PM
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3:20 on disk #9,

'the Shoulders respond to the Hips in both directions'. He didn't say Always.

What guarantee will we have for a motionless head?
Keep the Knee Bend and Waist Bend.
I agree.

Pivot is 90% of the Swing. Clear the Hips. In Both Directions. I agree.

Power is Zone 2. "Left Wrist is controlled by the Right Wrist and Right Forearm." I agree. No one Else seems to.

"All balls are played just behind Low Point". I agree.

There is a very interesting notion he made. That 'Hip Action (boosts) (my word) the #4 Accumulator. And that their can be a 4 Barrel Swinger who would use a Right Arm (Hard) Slapping Motion at the Bottom of the Swing. I got the idea that he meant that a 4 Barrel Swinger replaces Hip action with Right Arm Action. It seems Plausible.
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