[golfbulldog]

DG, would it be possible for you to edit the relevant sections of your TT videos, add in some title/description pages and post a "video argument" on youtube? ie. a video which you feel shows TT's belief / ideas ...collated from the segments which you often reference but few of us actually go back and review

I think that would allow you to demonstrate what you are trying to describe - if there is video evidence of TT not only saying what you say he said...but also demonstrating what he said he did... that might help too.

I am guessing that one bit would be the right handed arrow in Australian clip ?? The one where he makes a faster swish ??

Really, until you can post something like that...I think the post will continue to disintegrate... but with Microsoft Moviemaker...a few hours of video editing ....and you have your position visible for no cost $.

In the Case of "TGM versus DG" currently being held at Salem Court House - The facts which need to be explained are:-

For The Prosecution witnesses
Homer, for all his precision, said in 10-20-B "...usually restricted to hitting"... which ,if you take Homer as 100% precise, means that he must have had another application for this trigger. He did not say "Always restricted to hitting".

What was the other application that Homer had in mind which restricted him form stating "always restricted to hitting" ?

For the Defense witness (thats you DG!)
DG, How can you explain the video evidence which (to the best of my knowledge) always shows the pivot move before the right forearm?

From my own view, I think that you will find that the intention to move your right forearm as you describe causes an actual pivot motion which precedes your forearm motion -

ie. - in order to allow the forearm to feel like it is pulling the pivot does something first to allow your intended action (so the player feels their intention first...but the video camera sees the pivot move before the right forearm - a fact that you need to explain)

And then, once you feel you are pulling "down and out" like TT / Croker...the pivot moves in response to maintain balance.

I also think that Mike Austinites, who claim to throw from the top (but clearly have a pivot motion preceding their hands/forearms),...their feels can also be explained by this same method.... The pivot preempts the intention to move the right forearm... and then reacts to forearm motion to maintain balance.
This is the only way I can square this circle - TT did not invent a new Biomechanical/kinetic paradigm....but he did describe a new feel.