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Old 12-24-2008, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff View Post
OB Left - you wrote-: "If you are referring to the pivot I think you are then it is the one VJ prefaced by saying it was popular in the 1980's."

Wrong. You are obviously misunderstanding my posts. The swing that was apparently popular in the 1980's was pelvic action #2. I am referring to the conventional swing - pelvic action #1 - which is used by the majority of PGA tour golfers playing golf today. It's a rightwards centralised swing in contrast to the S&T swing which is a left-centralised swing. Sam Snead is the only golfer I have seen who has a perfectly centralised swing.

Jeff.

OK, I thought you meant the 1980s version where the head moves back. In regard to version one, the "conventional" golf swing as VJ describes it............he IS centered here!!!!!!! Not rightward centralized, just centered.

This difference is in what you consider to be the pivot center, the head or the base of the neck. While the base of the neck is perhaps the true pivot center its hard to see at times. For this reason people often refer to its more visible extension, the head. You, I believe are seeing a slight movement of the head to the right. I see this movement to be the logical result of the spine and neck being on different angles at address and caused by the turn of the pivot. If one were to stand straight upright and turn his shoulders .........the head would stay in place. Bend over and turn, the head moves, slightly, in an amount proportional to the angle of the neck. To be perfectly clear his pivot center has not moved here. Draw a line from his shirt label down.

Note: this is in stark contrast to your long ball hitters sway, where the pivot center and low point do move. But I sense you know this already. Are you back peddling? Good, it will serve your game better.

Why would VJ, a TGM instructor and author of a book that deals in large measure with topics such as the centered pivot, axis of rotation, COG etc call this the "conventional" swing. Because it is an uncompensated , centered swing. No wobble at the top.

Jeff, Ive got to go wrap some presents and pour a glass of wine for my wife.

Merry Christmas to you and to all that are still here right now. Get out of here and go hug your loved ones before they kill you.

OB


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