[12 piece bucket]

thanks i understand what your saying and that is the way I have always understood it all these years. But reread my post as to why i think it could be different. Homer doesn't say fleshy pad he might have meant that thats why im trying to get clarification. He says first joint of index finger where it touches the shaft.

BB . . . this is one of the finer points in the machine . . . It has to do with loading. The Swinger according to Mr. Kelley loads the shaft longitudinally. This is a big piece of how the pressure point is loaded. The Hitter is basically keeping the pressure on the aft side of the shaft. Where as the swinger particularly the swinger that goes to End vs. Top has the load fall on the knuckle as you describe. So the pressure is actually loaded. According to Mr. Kelley you can leave the pressure on the knuckle or as you come down let it return back to the fleshy pad. So you are correct in your analysis . . . with swinging the loading can change from the pad to the knuckle. So with hitting you are driving the aft portion of the shaft and the loading reflects that but with swinging you are pulling the length of the shaft so the top of the shaft falls on the knuckle (arrow outta the quiver deal).