so right now in my messed up swing at the top I have rotated my palm counter-clockwise so its facing the sky, thus shut position (clockwise start, counterclockwise to finish).
If I start the backswing with the same clockwise rotation, but keep that rotation all the way to the top, the palm (or say the word Yoda) is facing my caddie view camera, or the ball, or whatever the proper term is, either way 90 degrees to sky up, correct (though with a bent right wrist I guess it is always going to be up towards the sky a little bit)? It feels very cuppy but I can see the top of the club is not shut anymore. Then the club on the downswing keeps that same relationship (whoh that feels weird), which sure feels really open to me (duh, I have been shut for years) and at the last second the club is rolling into the horizontal hinge. It feels so weird, because I rolled the other way before (doh, think thats what you said, I rolled to a vertical hinge motion from the shut position).
I hope this makes some sense, I may do a short video tonight with some questions, if you dont mind?