flat vs steep BS shoulder turn?

[12 piece bucket]

Thanks for the video, thats what Im wondering about.

You want the Pivot via the Right Shoulder to take the Hands down plane towards the plane line/ base line in Startdown, right? The reasoning behind the TSP angle(s). But if the Right Shoulder is above the Inclined Plane (as formed by the Hands and Base Line) , wouldnt the Right Shoulder have to move towards a point above/beyond the Base Line to get the Hands to go towards the Base Line?

I dunno. Hands direct the Shoulder to turn towards where ever , Hands to Pivot, it all works out? With TSP angle you get a definite Alignment with the Right Shoulder moving towards the Base Line in Startdown (only) as if it was gonna smack the ball. Im getting real fond of that actually, then a little Throw and Release. Three stage rocket.

Hey Bucket, look at what this guy is up to. Towel drill, Rotated? Is it a TSP too or not?

Let's take a few of these . . . these "intentions" may or may not work for all procedures . . . .

You want the Pivot via the Right Shoulder to take the Hands down plane towards the plane line/ base line in Startdown, right?

In some motions I believe this is correct for some plane angles . . . Here's Brian perfectly on plane . . . seems to be directing his hands toward the plane line . . .




Lovemark on the other hand I would say has an entirely different intention in terms of where his hands are being directed. Note the difference in the relationship of the shoulders to the hands. Note the angle of the left arm when it is parallel to the ground and its relationship to the stance line. Note the difference in the relationship of the left arm to the ground at "delivery" . . . Lovemark seems to be directing his hands at a point INSIDE the plane line . . . and the respective shoulder motions seem to me to support this "intention".

But if the Right Shoulder is above the Inclined Plane (as formed by the Hands and Base Line) , wouldnt the Right Shoulder have to move towards a point above/beyond the Base Line to get the Hands to go towards the Base Line?

I believe you are correct in regard to this statement . . . If you were able to track the motions of the right shoulder you would see that Lovemarks shoulder motion is likely pointing outside/above the plane line . .. supporting that particular handpath.