[Mike O]

First, I'm really not sure myself if the ball travels on the clubhead for awhile or just bounces right off. In my opinion, TGM assumes that it has to bounce right off. Therefore, the more open for longer shots - Horizontal Hinging- issue, must mean the opening of the face is directly related to the amount of compression, more compression more closing before separation.

If the ball travels on the clubhead- I'm asserting that the ball still leaves the clubface at 90 degreess but because it's traveling down and out on the clubhead the ball doesn't start moving in the direction of the clubface - although seemingly a contradictory statement- see my train example above to understand the concept. This is one of the issues that I believe Homer would disagree with the "In Search for The Perfect Swing"- as they believed in this concept in their book. Homer always believed that the initial ball flight was always 90 degrees to the clubface.

Again, your question - really is the heart of the matter- is there travel or not? I would think that if there is travel, then the ball picks up the characteristics of the clubhead travel- i.e. 140 mph traveling down and out, which will influence ball flight characteristics.

In summary, I was just trying to assimilate the more open clubface alignment for longer shots, with the concept that the ball bounces immediately off the face - for insistence when hitting iron shots you don't carrry the ball into the ground, it jumps off the face before being driven into the ground. The amount of compression seems to be the answer in order to integrate TGM theory and concepts.