LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Brian Gay: Putting methods Thread: Brian Gay: Putting methods View Single Post #7 07-01-2009, 04:42 PM dodger Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 173 Big misconception is that a shoulder powered stroke does not close the face. It just does not need to close as much as one with rotation ala Utley's method, which involves no shoulder rocking. Watch Gay, Baddely, and Tiger. Same basic stroke. Compare distance control with someone like Mickelson. I love the look of the Utley stroke, it just is not as effective for me. dodger View Public Profile Send a private message to dodger Find all posts by dodger