[BerntR]

Since I run a web shop, I regularly read visitor statistics. Wnehever I post something here I can see that it is read by quite a few people. So why isn't anyone responding? Have I been to pretentious? If that's the case I hope you will exept my sincere apologies. Fire at will!!!

This is a thread in the advanced section. I think the start of the thread belongs here, but the part that revolves around my game probably belongs in the "unadvanced / lost cause section". But then again I didn't choose my name when I was born either.

Anyways - let's make the best out of it. Share experiences. Give advices. Ask questions. Whatever.

Progress today was that I thought: "Now that I have the hands out from the body - why not try a flatter swing?" And to me turning shoulder plane almost feels like dragging the club along the turf until it's behind my Right hip (actually the left, but it's still Right per TGM)

Well - the flattening plan wasn't my own. S bucket broken in a dozen pieces did the seeding work.

To tell the truth I was quite happy with my fundamentals when I started this thread. I was only looking for a way to stabilize my pattern.

<Now folks; Let us just a pause here so the teaching pro's can complete their LOL's. This is probably something they experience all the time from mediocre old timers like me. It feels good but it aint so . On second thought they are probably to buzy earning a living to read this thread and that is a priority that I understand and respect 100%.

There were some progress today. I am actually starting to get intimate with level wrists at addres. Yesterday I had my first mental "go" signal with level wrists at addres. But it didn't feel as well behaved and controlled as I'd like it to feel. Throwing something into the ground is a bit more dancint than I prefere.

Today I played with lowering the plane, like: How low can I get it? Not very low, but extremely low by my standards. I made it almost down to Ben Hogan low. And the interesting part about that rehersal was that these high, stretched out, over the top, powerless, level wrists, suddenly started to feel right. I was eventually able to aim through the ball.

I was lucky enough to get my wife out on 9 holes today. If I recall correct I hit 6 out of 7 fairways and quite a few greens. And those fairway hits were pretty goodl. Two memorable green hits: One was a pure stroke with a 5 iron from some 175 yards into the wind. High, straight and with soft landing. No turf which is a progress for me, since I'm a natural born digger. The second was a 225 yard par 3 with a lot wind in the face. "How about a pitching wedge-ish drive?" 3/4 stroke with the driver. I almost hit the flag and saved a par on a really tough par 3.

The "flat" swing today felt right and worked pretty good to. And it merged perfectly with my putting because suddenly the head location and angle was the same. I think it would have merged well with my chippings as well, but I don't recall any ordinary chipping strokes today. I guess I hit too many greens

Head and eyes location and angle is btw something fundamental to me and not only to me. My wife rarely plays golf. Her nice draw from some 15 year back has degenerated into a slice during the years when we got kids and "all that shit". So on the dreaded long par three with the wind against she first sliced the ball onto a roof on a quite expencive hose. That was pretty cool by the way. On her provisional I told her to look at a point about 2 feet behind the ball (the Jack Nicklaus focus point I guess). And then she hit a draw. Unfortunately it didn't carry the water but she liked the stroke anyway. I think the eyes' location and focus is an undervalued fundamental in the game of golf. It influences everything. If you don't agree, assume the perfect stance and when you're ready to go - turn and tilt your head and see what happens. I still haven't found where I need to look with a flatter stroke: I think I looked too much away from the ball at times ( a hook look). But the flatter swing plane still produced many OK strokes out there today and at least a couple that was exceptionally good by my standards. Well, I guess the plane was flat only by my standard. It was pretty close to the turned shoulder plane.

Next time I post a video I know I will feel like I'm on a really flat plane. Hopefully it will appear to be flatter than the last videos. And less hip tilt and leg work from the 70's. Hopefully a motion that feels and looks pure. But I will probably basically look almost the same as before. Same old body.

The first person that has a suggestion of next step: I'll try it and report back. As long as it is doable into a net and there is no health risk involved to me or anyone in the neighbourhood.