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Old 10-08-2005, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Delaware Golf
Right Shoulder responds to the action of the Right Forearm...Right Triceps respond to the action of the Right Forearm....there I said it (and I have been saying FOR A LONG TIME). For the umpteenth time it's called the MAGIC OF THE RIGHT FOREARM.

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OK, what causes this right forearm "action" that EVERYTHING is responding to?
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Old 10-08-2005, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by MizunoJoe
OK, what causes this right forearm "action" that EVERYTHING is responding to?
The GOLFER... naturally....and his/her right forearm!!! The proceeding action would be birth from his or her mother and father....just kidding (Joe, we should make this a comedy routine).

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Old 10-08-2005, 11:03 AM
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I do not feel my right forearm move. I feel my hands move, my hips move, my elbow even. The right forearm is pure magic but I can't start it without the pivot, hips and hands moving first. The right forearm is a major alignment tracing the Plane Line, I don't want to move it out of place without my lane producer- pivot hips.


And as you make mention to often,
Penick's magic move isn't an arm move first. It is a hand shift, elbow relocation, with a simultaneous weight shift or slide.

just my two cents within the family of devoted machiners
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Old 10-08-2005, 11:12 AM
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I do not feel my right forearm move. I feel my hands move, my hips move, my elbow even. The right forearm is pure magic but I can't start it without the pivot, hips and hands moving first. The right forearm is a major alignment tracing the Plane Line, I don't want to move it out of place without my lane producer- pivot hips.


And as you make mention to often,
Penick's magic move isn't an arm move first. It is a hand shift, elbow relocation, with a simultaneous weight shift or slide.

just my two cents within the family of devoted machiners

Mike,

Right Arm Swinging and Three Barrel Hitting use the right forearm to initiate startdown.

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Old 10-08-2005, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Delaware Golf
Mike,

Right Arm Swinging and Three Barrel Hitting use the right forearm to initiate startdown.

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I bump to start when I hit, I "feel" as if my pivot has ended before the arms strike downward.
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Old 10-08-2005, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bmike
I bump to start when I hit, I "feel" as if my pivot has ended before the arms strike downward.

Mike listen (read) carefully....

3 barrel hitting - right forearm initiates the downswing.

4 barrel hitting - Hip Slide initiates the downswing.

You compared apples and oranges...In my previous post, I said right arm swinging and 3 barrel hitting...nothing mentioned about 4 barrel hitting.

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Old 10-08-2005, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Delaware Golf
Mike listen (read) carefully....

3 barrel hitting - right forearm initiates the downswing.

DG
Right Forearm does not initiate the Downstroke for 3 Barrel Hitting.

What you feel like is happening and what actually happens (or should happen) are two different things.
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Old 10-08-2005, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Delaware Golf
The GOLFER... naturally....and his/her right forearm!!! The proceeding action would be birth from his or her mother and father....just kidding (Joe, we should make this a comedy routine).

DG
This is DG's last answer to my question of what causes the action of the right forearm which DG claims that both the right shoulder and the right tricep RESPOND to!

It's the GOLFER and before this answer, the answer was simply MAGIC!

And so there it is - DG doesn't give a straight answer, either because he can't or won't.

Here's what I can say about the so-called TT right arm swing:

1) Tomasello is teaching a 3-barrel inert left arm swinging procedure - at least he says it's a swing, and it looks like it when he makes an actual pass at the ball. He uses standard wrist action and emphasizes keeping the left hip moving through impact to keep the left wrist from bending. When he demos the swing without hitting a ball, he gets to the delivery position and forcefully extends his right arm down and out with the right tricep, saying "HIT IT HIT IT HIT IT", but I don't think he does this when he actually hits a ball. But even if he does, this is not a right arm swing, but rather a hit or a swit. This right arm extension is found in all TGM patterns - it is a result of CF in a swing and intentionally done in a hit(which TT calls a "punch"). I don't see anywhere on the video where he even mentions a "right arm swing".

2) We don't know what DG is doing because he won't answer my question.
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Old 10-08-2005, 05:32 PM
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We are making some progress here even though we have some terminology issues to resolve. Just so everyone is aware, I have my finger on the lock thread key, so I'm hoping cool heads prevail and we can continue seeking enlightenment!
Let's keep in mind, the name of this thread is referencing Homers definition of the Right Arm Swing. We are attempting to reconcile Mr. Tomasello's pattern(s) with it. Thus far, there doesn't appear to be a correlation, but we will present more evidence with a new video soon.

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Old 10-08-2005, 05:44 PM
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We are making some progress here even though we have some terminology issues to resolve. Just so everyone is aware, I have my finger on the lock thread key, so I'm hoping cool heads prevail and we can continue seeking enlightenment!
Let's keep in mind, the name of this thread is referencing Homers definition of the Right Arm Swing. We are attempting to reconcile Mr. Tomasello's pattern(s) with it. Thus far, there doesn't appear to be a correlation, but we will present more evidence with a new video soon.

Thanks Guys,

Bagger
Bagger,

I bet you can image I'm holding back big time at this point...

Joe,

My suggestion at this point is for you to go back through the ENTIRE thread re-read each post....and see if you can come up with the answer...if that doesn't help, I would go through the ENTIRE Tomasello series (take the chapters in order) and see if that helps, if not, I would stop the pain by forgetting about the right arm swing...

Sorry for the confusion. Maybe the next Tomasello video (The May 1992 tape) will help...

DG

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