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Old 10-09-2005, 06:21 PM
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Ernie Els is a great Swinger, but not a Right Arm Swinger. His Stroke Center is the Left Shoulder which gives a much longer Swing Radius.

Why is Els not a Right Arm Swinger? Because his Stroke Center is not the Right Elbow! So by definition he isn't a Right Arm Swinger.

Look at Els' Impact here:

http://redgoat.smugmug.com/gallery/79626/1/2770246

Anyone who thinks his Stroke Center is the Right Elbow, please put your hand up!

Anyone who didn't raise their hand, and still thinks Els is using a Right Arm Swing -- you don't know what's a Right Arm Swing!
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Old 10-09-2005, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by tongzilla
Ernie Els is a great Swinger, but not a Right Arm Swinger. His Stroke Center is the Left Shoulder which gives a much longer Swing Radius.

Why is Els not a Right Arm Swinger? Because his Stroke Center is not the Right Elbow! So by definition he isn't a Right Arm Swinger.

Look at Els' Impact here:

http://redgoat.smugmug.com/gallery/79626/1/2770246

Anyone who thinks his Stroke Center is the Right Elbow, please put your hand up!

Anyone who didn't raise their hand, and still thinks Els is using a Right Arm Swing -- you don't know what's a Right Arm Swing!
Tongzilla,

Wait until you see the Tomasello video??? Especially when Tomasello talks about illusions!!!

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Old 10-09-2005, 08:28 PM
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All right, guys. things are getting a little heated here. This thread is locked until we put the Tomasello-Dietrick Video up.
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The video's are up and this thread is reopened for business.
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Old 10-20-2005, 10:24 AM
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DG,

Now that the video is up and we've had a chance to review it, Lynn posted that it is a left arm swing with the "magic of the right forearm". Do you agree?
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Old 10-20-2005, 11:22 AM
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DG,

Now that the video is up and we've had a chance to review it, Lynn posted that it is a left arm swing with the "magic of the right forearm". Do you agree?
It's a faulty left arm swing by default, because it isn't a right arm swing nor a hitting procedure. There is no initial shoulder thrust, but rather the right hand is moving the left arm. The hands are overaccelerating causing #4 accumulator throwaway and there is wristcock throwaway.
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Old 10-20-2005, 11:47 AM
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Miz,

Your points are clear on the Tomasello thread. Understood that you don't care for Tom's teaching. I want to keep this thread focused.
I started this thread to clear up confusion over the Right Arm Swing. DG has positioned that he uses it and uses Tom's teaching as a proof point. We posted the video and are now getting back to the subject.
I appreciate a variety of opinions as long as it doesn't get personal, for clarification we typically look to the book for the truth of the matter. In this case, we are seeking the truth in the Right Arm Swing.

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Old 10-27-2005, 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by MizunoJoe
It's a faulty left arm swing by default, because it isn't a right arm swing nor a hitting procedure. There is no initial shoulder thrust, but rather the right hand is moving the left arm. The hands are overaccelerating causing #4 accumulator throwaway and there is wristcock throwaway.
Hmmmm...during the Tomasello video...did anybody see Tomasello demonstrate while hitting balls the actions described above...I surely didn't!!! Actually, totally the opposite!!!

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Old 10-27-2005, 12:03 AM
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DG,

Now that the video is up and we've had a chance to review it, Lynn posted that it is a left arm swing with the "magic of the right forearm". Do you agree?

Right Arm Swing....period!!!

Right Arm Takeaway
Right Arm Trigger
Extensor Action/Sweep Release

The stroke follows section 12-13-0 like Homer had this stroke procedure in mind!!!

I truly don't believe Homer had a problem with Right Arm Swinging...

I can't wait for next years golf season!!!

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Old 10-27-2005, 12:27 AM
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The stroke follows section 12-13-0 like Homer had this stroke procedure in mind!!!

I truly don't believe Homer had a problem with Right Arm Swinging...

I can't wait for next years golf season!!!
Three statements, three responses:

1. There is no 12-13-0. If you mean 12-3-0, that Mechanical Checklist applies to all Stroke Patterns -- even 'X' Patterns -- not just Right Arm Swing.

2. Homer thought the Right Arm Swing was a "beautiful" procedure (but be careful with the elbow ligaments).

3. Neither can I!
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