It's clear to me that the guys in the top row all have the problem of the misguided concept of striking the ball while the shoulders are square to the plane line. They've stopped turning their shoulders in order for the hands to catch up and the only way for the left wrist to remain flat is to accelerate the left wrist targetward by moving the left arm away from the body(overacceleration/independent hand/arm motion). Look at the billowing shirts above the left shoulders in #6,8,9,10 as their shoulders turn through the shot.
It's clear to me that the guys in the top row all have the problem of the misguided concept of striking the ball while the shoulders are square to the plane line. They've stopped turning their shoulders in order for the hands to catch up and the only way for the left wrist to remain flat is to accelerate the left wrist targetward by moving the left arm away from the body(overacceleration/independent hand/arm motion). Look at the billowing shirts above the left shoulders in #6,8,9,10 as their shoulders turn through the shot.
Good observation, MJ.
Note the "comparatively Squared-Away" yet still slightly Open alignment of the Shoulders in the Standard and Special Impact Fix Variations (10-8-A/B photos). In Pivot Strokes, the Body Rotation ideally Loads the Lag at Start Down and then continues to lead the Arms and Hands throughout the Downstroke.
However, this desired Body Rotation must not be allowed to pull the Club Off Plane (Bent Plane Line). Hence, our Hand-Controlled-Pivot System and the necessity of Plane Line Tracing through Impact.
Hide the children - Pandora's box has been opened!
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Good observation, MJ.
Note the "comparatively Squared-Away" yet still slightly Open alignment of the Shoulders in the Standard and Special Impact Fix Variations (10-8-A/B photos). In Pivot Strokes, the Body Rotation ideally Loads the Lag at Start Down and then continues to lead the Arms and Hands throughout the Downstroke.
However, this desired Body Rotation must not be allowed to pull the Club Off Plane (Bent Plane Line). Hence, our Hand-Controlled-Pivot System and the necessity of Plane Line Tracing through Impact.
In an ideal world, I would agree. But here's the problem - how many can people can "passively aim" the hands? Not many I think. For most all, in order to teach them to move the hands SOLELY with the pivot, you must get their minds OUT of their hands and onto the pivot itself. Tell them to aim PP #3 at an aiming point and they will thrust it there with their hands. So... the choices are clear - make them Hitters or be prepared for "incubation periods" of years, during which they are switters.
I will now hunker down like a jackrabbit in a hailstorm!
In an ideal world, I would agree. But here's the problem - how many can people can "passively aim" the hands? Not many I think. For most all, in order to teach them to move the hands SOLELY with the pivot, you must get their minds OUT of their hands and onto the pivot itself. Tell them to aim PP #3 at an aiming point and they will thrust it there with their hands. So... the choices are clear - make them Hitters or be prepared for "incubation periods" of years, during which they are switters.
I will now hunker down like a jackrabbit in a hailstorm!
Un-hunker, MJ. You may be surprised to learn that, for the most part, I agree! In fact, my lessons always start with the Power Package Structure -- the Flying Wedges -- and then proceed directly to the Pivot. Zone #1 -- the Body Pivot -- must be brought under control before the Hands have any hope to perform their assignments unhindered.
A point of exception would be your basic premise, namely that the Hands must always be moved "solely with the Pivot." Remember, Pivot Strokes are optional, and in these instances, the Arms supply the necessary transportation for the Power Package.
A point of exception would be your basic premise, namely that the Hands must always be moved "solely with the Pivot." Remember, Pivot Strokes are optional, and in these instances, the Arms supply the necessary transportation for the Power Package.
I feel like I walked through a rainstorm without getting wet.
Here's where it gets interesting(for me anyway). By hands solely moved by the pivot, I meant specifically from release to finish. Does everyone agree that "hands moving hands" downplane should not happen from release point to finish in a Swinging procedure? In Ben's words you'd be "adding".
I feel like I walked through a rainstorm without getting wet.
Here's where it gets interesting(for me anyway). By hands solely moved by the pivot, I meant specifically from release to finish. Does everyone agree that "hands moving hands" downplane should not happen from release point to finish in a Swinging procedure? In Ben's words you'd be "adding".
Agreed. In fact "hands moving hands" shouldn't happen from The Top, not just from Release Point. And even for Hitting, the Hands don't move the Hands, it's the Right Triceps.
Agreed. In fact "hands moving hands" shouldn't happen from The Top, not just from Release Point. And even for Hitting, the Hands don't move the Hands, it's the Right Triceps.
The Hands are always aiming.
What about shifting to a shallower plane - say from TSP to elbow plane - is it OK to push the hands downward before spinning the flywheel?
A point of exception would be your basic premise, namely that the Hands must always be moved "solely with the Pivot." Remember, Pivot Strokes are optional, and in these instances, the Arms supply the necessary transportation for the Power Package.
Let me back up here and start over. Under what conditions would it be valid to add arm/hand effort to flywheel power in a Swinging stroke? Aren't all strokes pivot strokes for a Swinger?
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