Vijay's club isn't really off plane between release and follow through. He is just using the Elbow Plane.
Who thinks the Elbow Plane is more of a Pivot Controlled Hands procedure? (note I did not say you have to be using pivot controlled hands if you're using the elbow plane).
One thing I've always pondered about: if you're really using the Aiming Point properly, which is basically a Hands Controlled Pivot concept, why would you perform a shift on the downstroke? It's not like you're aiming your hands to shift down and then towards the ball. Aiming Point = straight line from the top to the ball. So if you're doing it properly, there shouldn't be a shift on the downstroke. Comments from anyone?
The club is below plane and pointing 10 dgrees to right field in frame #5...then all of a sudden he's pointing parallel and begining to bend it left...checkout his clubface to the plane in frame#7....He's demonstrating "bending the plane line right before our own eyes"....Besides the #3 PP, the right forearm are NOT in line with the Sweetpot at Impact Frame #6 This inside at release ...left at follow-through is the culprit to his pulls hooks when he hits it poorly...
I don't see what is really wrong. He has a bent right wrist and flat left at impact and the a full roll after. His right hand probably comes off because he rolls so hard thru and doesn't hold on with his right hand.
I don't see how you can tell from that pic if there isn't a hinge action. He's one of the best ball strikers on tour. I think I would take his action any day of the week.
PS. VJ doesn't have to practice that much to stay as good as he is. He is just a perfectionist.
Sorry....I have worked with several PGA Tour Players, LPGA Tour Players, and Champions Tour Playes...3 More made it through first stage today....All 3 have better alignments than VJ...Yes he's a great ballstriker...I still don't like his action...you can like it if you like...He just proves you don't have to swing the best to be one of the best...You can strike the ball well with a bad swing...and you can miss the ball with a great swing...As I said his 3 Stations look fine....Whenever the club is Parallel to the ground it should be parallel to the baseline (Shaft on the ground is parallel to his intended plane line...NOT THE SHAFT STUCK IN THE GROUND) his is pointing to the right at release and if the club were parallel to the ground at followthough it would be to the left....Right + Left = BENT
How would you rank these Pics??? VJ's Right Forearm points inside the PL....or above the plane angle of the shaft....Mac O'Grady is the only one that's dead on it....Close enough is only good for horseshoes and handgrenades...BTW...VJ is not even in Mac's league when it comes to "power- ball striking"....The only thing O'Grady lacked was knowing when to get out of the way of his own greatness....
Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
Last edited by annikan skywalker : 10-28-2005 at 04:49 PM.
annikan- i'm having trouble seeing the clubhead/shaft in the mac and vj pics - could u circle them (on my monitor it looks like vj's clubhead is inline w/ his hands which i suspect must not be the case given your description) ... tway (is that him pic #8 ?) appears to be parallel to the baseline, but he also appears to be going vertical - losing flex in the knees - as well or did he start w/ little or no knee flex?
The reason you cannot see the clubhead, sweetspot, clubshaft, #3PP, in line with the forearm is because they are perfectly aligned on-plane...Look where the hands are ...closer....Now on all the others ...one might be a little more in,a little more out, a little too high , or a little too low with the clubhead, sweetspot, shaft, #3PP, or the right forearm...only one has them all aligned...the one you are having trouble seeing...why? because "It is aligned...Perfectly"...Hope i've helped..if I need to I will post another sequnece if graphics overlayed so it will be more obvious....Shaft right + shaft left = BENT PLANE LINE
The reason you cannot see the clubhead, sweetspot, clubshaft, #3PP, in line with the forearm is because they are perfectly aligned on-plane...Look where the hands are ...closer....Now on all the others ...one might be a little more in,a little more out, a little too high , or a little too low with the clubhead, sweetspot, shaft, #3PP, or the right forearm...only one has them all aligned...the one you are having trouble seeing...why? because "It is aligned...Perfectly"...Hope i've helped..if I need to I will post another sequnece if graphics overlayed so it will be more obvious....Shaft right + shaft left = BENT PLANE LINE
annikan- i must be looking at the wrong thing ... i see in picture #1 (faldo?) that the shaft is pointed to left field and that in pic #4 (tiger?) that the shaft is pointed to right field but pic #3 (mac?) and pic #7 (vj) both appear to be more or less the same w/ the clubhead "covering" the hands in the down the line view ... i know i must be missing something here, pls help ... thx
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