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Old 10-28-2005, 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
VJ's clubhead is still inside his hand path and slightly below...look Southwest of his #3PP
Dunno man....looks dead on to me in that pic. I don't understand how you can say VJ's shaft is pointing 10 degrees to right field...if anything, it's pointing LEFT of the green (but still parallel to his stance, as far as I can tell).....playing a push-fade (power fade) maybe?

The only thing I can see that's out of the ordinary is hos close his right elbow is to his hip.....but Hogan was like that too....

One other thing I think you should prolly take into account too is what kind of (natural) ballflight the golfer wants to have.

What do you guys think.

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Old 10-29-2005, 08:58 AM
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Mac O'Grady Top Center has the best alignments...why would you ever think Bob Tway???? his right forearm is cross-line and his club is on-plane but below the plane of his right forearm...This pictures are organized to show some "spectrums of differences or possibilities"...there is only one photo that is proper aligned then a close second and a third....so and so on...

I think its time to get the yellow book back out and learn some of thebasic alignments.....

Right forearm tracing the plane line....Mac O'Grady...

#3PP and the sweetspot on plane....Mac O'Grady....

Maintaining a stable and stationary post...Mac O'Grady....

Clearing the right hip/right elbow location...Mac O'Grady....

Maintaining proper spacing and sequencing of the pivot components...Mac O'Grady...

Guys if you cannot see that VJ's Shaft is pointing to the right of the baseline on the ground at release...and that the clubhead is low left of the Hand Path during the follow -through then I can no longer help you...perhaps a lesson with an Authorized Instructor might help...

I know what I see and what to look for...and what I see is XXX-rated....Right + Left = BENT

Good Luck!!!

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Old 10-29-2005, 09:16 AM
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Tway is number two- not eight, isn't he?

As a photographer I never trust pictures. LOL. Are these video captures?

Can you explain the idea of BENT. What bends the plane line? The hand path? Seem to me that the clubhead travels in an orbit that intersects the plane line at one point, the ball, and would not be an indicator of wheather the plane line is straight or bent.

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Old 10-29-2005, 10:39 AM
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Tway is number two- not eight, isn't he?

As a photographer I never trust pictures. LOL. Are these video captures?

Can you explain the idea of BENT. What bends the plane line? The hand path? Seem to me that the clubhead travels in an orbit that intersects the plane line at one point, the ball, and would not be an indicator of wheather the plane line is straight or bent.

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#2 looks like Ted Tryba to me. I think #8 IS Tway.

I think some learning could occur with this discussion... if it is done carefully.

Maybe some further discussion(pictures) of the #3 Pressure Point and Sweet Spot being on Plane would help start things off.

The first two guys are obviously much different than Mac. Tiger looks similar, but his Sweet Spot looks different than Mac's. The CLUBFACE on V.J. is a little hard to see here.
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Old 10-29-2005, 11:42 AM
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AS,
Great analysis. I agree.
It appears most of the guys will have to stand up or make another compensation to get the right forearm and club on plane.
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Old 10-29-2005, 05:33 PM
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Kutchar,Tryba, O'Grady, Woods, Couples

Cadet Fisher(West Point), VJ, Tway, Sindelar, Watson...


Lagster, I concur with your post....


6B Mike I'll consider trading ya...Munson,Dent, Randolph,Chambliss, Rivers, Nettles, Jackson, Guidry,Gossage,and the Catfish... Hunter that is....If you and Philly make the trip and More Caddyshack quotes
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Old 10-29-2005, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
Kutchar,Tryba, O'Grady, Woods, Couples

Cadet Fisher(West Point), VJ, Tway, Sindelar, Watson...


Lagster, I concur with your post....


6B Mike I'll consider trading ya...Munson,Dent, Randolph,Chambliss, Rivers, Nettles, Jackson, Guidry,Gossage,and the Catfish... Hunter that is....If you and Philly make the trip and More Caddyshack quotes

Tryba and Tway- Tway and Tryba. They always mixed me up. LOL.

Mickey Rivers, damn...Philly and I will start painting the "Magic Forearm Bus" and hit the road with U2 and Elvis Costello CDs playing loud. I'll play Cheech and Philly will be Chong.

Still need to call Pat- where is the guy?
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Old 10-29-2005, 09:47 PM
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ok. I think I am starting to see what you are saying. I was confused on the right forearm and see where you are saying it points over the line by tway.

I think if we could see lines drawn it would be easier, but I think I am grasping what you are saying. Mac's is a little unclear, but I see his right forearm.
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Old 10-30-2005, 05:31 PM
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OK here's why I VJ is XXX-Rated in my opinion: The red arrow is for frames #5 and #7 ONLY to indicate clubhead location ...Not anything else..so don't read too far into it...Now the delivery path of the hands is on-plane but the clubhead/sweetspot is below plane in fram#5....the Hands are on the plane in frame #7 the below and left of the hand path on frame #7.....there for so the plane line be kept straight both the #3 Pressure point and the sweetspot plane need to be tracing the same line..not 2 different lines...Thus a Bent plane line...is XXX-Rated!!!

BTW ...Notice the Hinge Action of the clubface....Frames #2,#5,&#7


See some differences or incompatiblity???? I Do!!!


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Old 10-30-2005, 05:42 PM
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O!

THERE'S the clubface!

I didn't see it there man.

Gotcha.

But he does hit a fade right? Is it a push-fade?
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