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Old 10-30-2005, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
Bucket...you are way too flattering...just doing what I know and love dude!!!!

For you "poo-pooers" of MORAD out there...check this out!!!




Mac starts on the Hands only Plane until have way up then shifts to the Elbow plane and as aresult of the lengthening of his stroke locates the Turned Shoulder Plane even with the Rotated Shoulder Turn Component....then pending on ball flight...in this case shifts back down to the elbow plane during downstroke and impact...then after folow-through begins to shift it up to the Turned Shoulder Plane and perhaps on this shot slightly above....Definitley NOT Zero Shift!!!

But where it counts...

NOW you may not like or understand his backstroke pattern...

BUT let's TALK...

start down,downstroke, release, impact,follow-through and finish...

SHOW ME BETTER!!!

AS
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Great Pictures!!! A lot of precision in that Stroke!!

OK... Rotated Shoulder Turn... Strong grip... Wrist Action?

Start Down? Initiated by what?
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Old 10-30-2005, 10:09 PM
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Start Down from the Ground up....
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Old 11-16-2005, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
Bucket...you are way too flattering...just doing what I know and love dude!!!!

For you "poo-pooers" of MORAD out there...check this out!!!




Mac starts on the Hands only Plane until have way up then shifts to the Elbow plane and as aresult of the lengthening of his stroke locates the Turned Shoulder Plane even with the Rotated Shoulder Turn Component....then pending on ball flight...in this case shifts back down to the elbow plane during downstroke and impact...then after folow-through begins to shift it up to the Turned Shoulder Plane and perhaps on this shot slightly above....Definitley NOT Zero Shift!!!

But where it counts...

NOW you may not like or understand his backstroke pattern...

BUT let's TALK...

start down,downstroke, release, impact,follow-through and finish...

SHOW ME BETTER!!!

AS
Skywalker~

For me understanding the shoulders as in Basic Plane Angles/Clubshaft Control and Body Control/Shoulder Turn was an effort and 7-13 SHOULDER TURN left an impression.

Although this tread may be "Advanced" concepts, considering it is posted in Basics, what is the significance of the TSP in the O'Grady analysis ?

* Mac does not reach the preselected downstroke clubshaft plane in the turn back..
* PP3 does not trace the TSP in the move down.
* Less clear from the photos, but it is questionable if the right shoulder traces the TSP in the move down.

DRW
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Old 11-16-2005, 09:13 PM
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You bring up nice points...

However.....Mac is not using the Straight Line delivery path and Zero Shift...With all due respect....He's not even using the Single Shift...

He uses a Top Arc/Angle Line for this particular shot requires a Double Shift back down to the Elbow Plane...

He started on the Hands Only Plane...I doubt this is his pre-selected downstroke plane...

You're right the Shoulder doesn't move down the Turned Shoulder....Why?

The right Shoulder is Turning on the Rotated Shoulder Turn which is at Right angles to his Spine...That being said.... the flatter planes such as the...Elbow and Hands OnlyPlanes... the Shoulder may move on a path that is "Parallel" to the Plane Angle rather than the recommended ON Plane Procedure which provides support to the Hands and the Club....

Checkout the stripes in his shirt in Frame #7...Not on-plane but....Parallel to the Elbow Plane?

This is another reason why Mac ..sets-up and has the amounts of #3 Accumulator, Waist Bend and Knee Bend....

You don't have to use the recommended pattern in Chapter 12 to be a real player...But I recommend you learn Chapter 12 before you customize it...

BTW...noticed he missed Qualifying School again....There's more to the game than a great swing and striking it pure.....Hmmmmm


Back to the pics....

The nuts and bolts are represented by frames #5,#6,#7


The significance ....is you can locate a Turned Shoulder Plane with a Rotated Shoulder Turn ...You don't need to be Standard and you don't HAVE to set-up on the Turned Shoulder unless you're lookin for a Zero Shift...I bet you asking why would he not use a zero shift...Well maybe his intentions are not to hit a straight ball? Perhaps he enjoys a stroke pattern that allows a little versatility? Rather than the "Uncompensated" recommendation in Chapter 12.

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Old 11-16-2005, 11:23 PM
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<<I bet you asking why would he not use a zero shift>>

No, it is not a requirement. I just wanted to know what benefit it is to locate the TSP if he was not doing anything with it and it appeared to me that he wasn't.

BTW, is there something about entering impact on the elbow plane that improves "ball striking?" I believe this is also reflected with Trevino and Ben teaches a through the waist plane.

DRW

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Old 11-16-2005, 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DOCW3
<<I bet you asking why would he not use a zero shift>>

Not at all! It is not a requirement. I just wanted to know what benefit it is to locate the TSP if he was not doing anything with it and it appeared to me that he wasn't.

DRW
Has he not located the Turned Shoulder Plane with both the Club and his hands in Frame #4???...Perhaps I'm not reading your point correctly!!!! He just locates the Turned Shoulder Plane as a result of over-lengthening his stroke via a double shift...If he hits Cut shots I've seen him use Single Shift...rather than the pics posted here...I'll try to post some different pics of him using a different procedure....For Comparison!!!

I think the primary benefit is Maximum participation and Range of Motion of the Power Package Components are utlized which gives perhaps better performance characteristics of the other Plane Angles and their Variations...
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