Here's a quick reminder guys: Homer said that a Strong Single Action Grip (10-2-B, Left Wrist Vertical, not Turned) is mandatory throughout the Basic Curriculum for G.O.L.F. If you're not sure whether to make the change...take the hint!
To understand what Vertical means, look at photo in 4-C-1. If you extend your Left Arm straight in front of yourself, parallel to the ground with fingers extended, you will end up looking like 4-C-1. Now without Turning or Rolling your Left Wrist, lower your arm into a more golf-like position. Maintaining this Vertical position of your Left Wrist, you can place the club in the cup of your Left Hand (for minimal Accumulator 3, typically used for putting) or the heel pad of your Left Hand ('normal' amount of Accumulator #3). Therefore, using a 10-2-B Grip does not necessarily equate to zero Accumulator #3.
Now I believe part of your confusion is this. You think Accumulator #3 application is Rolling the Left Wrist through Impact, which is true (kind of). Hence you think having a Vertical Left Wrist means Zero Accumulator #3. Am I on barking up the wrong tree? If not, I will further clarify your confusion upon request.
Thank you. I looked up the references you were pointing to and got clear on the matter. What I was asking about Acc. #3 had to do with the wrist being "bent or rolled" in order to take what I term as a "strong" grip, which it does. And since one of the basic fundamentals of this golf theory requires no bending of the left wrist (ideal scenario) to have all the components work together, on plane, I am going to take on learning the 10-2-B grip.
I started out playing golf seven years ago with what is termed a vertical grip (or "weak" grip in non-G.O.L.F. terms) and my wrist always felt weak and vulnerable to injury because of many mishits. So basically I changed to a strong grip (I believe what I do would be more like 10-2-D) because of that and due to poor quality of impact (ball contact).
I also noticed that I define my down swing plane by my left shoulder and from something I read today in the book the right shoulder defines the plane and the left arm and shoulder are never on plane (is that correct?. The TGM book is difficult to understand and there are so many sections that contain references to other sections that it seems like it would take a day to just read one section and all it's references... but with the help of all of you that have been playing, learning and teaching this technology, I feel as though I've learned more about the golf swing in one month then the other 6 years and 11 months that I've endeavored to do so.
What you guys do here and who you are all being is extraordinary and I want to let you know that it is appreciated and it makes a difference.
I started out playing golf seven years ago with what is termed a vertical grip (or "weak" grip in non-G.O.L.F. terms) and my wrist always felt weak and vulnerable to injury because of many mishits. So basically I changed to a strong grip (I believe what I do would be more like 10-2-D) because of that and due to poor quality of impact (ball contact).
The 10-2-B Grip may not be as weak as you think.
Do this again: Extend your Left Arm straight in front of yourself, parallel to the ground with fingers extended, you will end up looking like 4-C-1. Now keeping your Left Wrist Vertical and your Left Arm parallel to the ground, swing the whole of your Left Arm about six inches to your right (just like a door). Without changing anything from this position, drop your Left Arm into a golf-like like position. Important: Note how your Left Wrist seems to be slightly Turned! In fact, it's perfectly Vertical! It's Vertical to the Horizontal Plane.
Another point. Following directly from above, keeping the same alignments, place a club into the heel pad of your left hand. If you did everything correctly, your fingers should still be extended. Now if you wrap your fingers around the grip, notice how the Left Wrist looks very slightly more turned!
Yet another point. If you place your left thumb slightly to the right of centre of grip as per last paragraph of 10-2-0 ("aft"), as you wrap your fingers around the grip, your left wrist will look more turned than if you placed your left thumb in the convential centre line position.
Great post, Tong. It took me several years in TGM -- and many weak, 'dying quail' Golf Shots -- to grasp this truth.
Here's one more way to get the idea across. With your Left Hand, pick up a bottle of water, take a sip and then lower it in front of you until your left forearm is parallel to the ground. Take a look at your Left Wrist: It is Vertical. Grip a Golf Club the same way, and you're in business.
Great post, Tong. It took me several years in TGM -- and many weak, 'dying quail' Golf Shots -- to grasp this truth.
Here's one more way to get the idea across. With your Left Hand, pick up a bottle of water, take a sip and then lower it in front of you until your left forearm is parallel to the ground. Take a look at your Left Wrist: It is Vertical. Grip a Golf Club the same way, and you're in business.
Listen up, Michael. This is the straight skinny!
Okay I've read all of the threads and now I'm very confused! ShouldI endeavor to use a 10-2-B? Why were you hitting "dying quail " shots? Becasue of 10-2-B?
Sorry but I'm not yet up to speed in deciphering all of the jargon yet.
Okay I've read all of the threads and now I'm very confused! ShouldI endeavor to use a 10-2-B? Why were you hitting "dying quail " shots? Becasue of 10-2-B?
Sorry but I'm not yet up to speed in deciphering all of the jargon yet.
Michael
Originally Posted by mabramb
One thing I really think I suffer from and would like to minimize is throwaway. Can the 10-2-D grip make throwaway more likely to occur?
Michael
Bottom line:
Go to Impact Fix (7-8 and 8-2) and take a Strong Single Action Grip (10-2-B).
Why would anyone skip FIX??? Mr Kelly emphasized its importance.
I think Tong was saying this after establishment of a proper grip.
But....
Through experience, Impact Fix can be established before a round for each club. It is not part of every pre-shot rountine during a round but can be if you like. I would never tell anyone NOT to do it. Experience with my clubs (driver/5i/wedge) and the ball position alerts my hands to 'Fix.'
I do go into Impact Fix with a tough shot or crummy lie before me.
Do this again: Extend your Left Arm straight in front of yourself, parallel to the ground with fingers extended, you will end up looking like 4-C-1. Now keeping your Left Wrist Vertical and your Left Arm parallel to the ground, swing the whole of your Left Arm about six inches to your right (just like a door). Without changing anything from this position, drop your Left Arm into a golf-like like position. Important: Note how your Left Wrist seems to be slightly Turned! In fact, it's perfectly Vertical! It's Vertical to the Horizontal Plane.
Tong Mr.K would be proud! Another stellar post! Moving the hands on the Horizontal Plane the dropping down to the Inclined Plane . . . Hello Dual Horizontal Hinge Motion.
Hybrid Mode
