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Old 01-10-2006, 10:03 PM
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The Art of Getting Out of Your Own Way
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Good point on the 30%!!!

Got any notes on the "Art of Getting Out of the Way Class?"
Yes, there is a book that goes with the agility class. I am not sure how easily one can relate it to golf, although I did, at one time, have a golf version thereof. When you are training to shoot rifles at extreme distances (1000+ yards) you learn to fire between your heartbeats because your pulse through the sling on your arm is enough to throw your aim off at that range. This becomes truly tested when others are shooting back at you. You learn to actually slow your heart rate consciously.

The one thing that I can "tip" to is this. When we are stressed, we say "Take a deep breath", but we breathe from our chest instead of our stomach. This does nothing to improve the exchange of oxygen and actually causes additional build up of CO2 in the bottom of your lungs, which is where the primary transfer of O2 to your blood stream takes place. The increase in CO2 causes your heart beat to rise, which causes you to breath faster in order to effect a better O2 transfer, which causes your heart to beat faster because, once again, you are not breathing properly. When you wish to relax you should take a breath that causes your stomach to expand as though you are swelling with pregnancy. Your chest doesn't move AT ALL. If you practice breathing like this, then a couple of these breaths go a LONG way to reducing the tension in your body.

More as time permits. I must go do my homework for school

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Old 01-11-2006, 12:45 AM
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Help is on it's way just keep your knees packet in ice. Keep your Back very very loose and your mind in your hands. Before you know it you will be hitting ropes! And I do mean ropes Your Golf Stroke will appear right before your eyes like a little fairy taie Sprinkling Fairy dust on you. I know this because I played with you and I was watching your golf stroke. A Better way to say it is I was studing you golf swing. With the Ailing aliments that you have. I must say shooting 39 on the front and another ?? on the back nine. Your realliy not to far away. From passing the PAT those young guns will be saying who is that Guy He hits it like those TGMER over on that Lynn Blake Golf website. WOW If, I may say so self say you are a good canidate for a HITTER! Maybe a (4 barrel hitter)Only a few have sucucced. Trust me, our paths will cross again in Riverside County area. Pactice your short shots and keep loading your club then give it the old Ben Doyle style Put a quarter between you buns and when someone ask for change bust it out. two dimes and a nickle ( Ben Hogan did that too) Give it the old whallop. Ball gets the message and your passing the PAT with 72/72 Then the PAT is out of the way
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Old 01-11-2006, 04:36 AM
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Hi all...

Thanks for the suggestions...

However...

What exactly is anxiety?
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Old 01-11-2006, 10:46 AM
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High Anxiety
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Hi all...

Thanks for the suggestions...

However...

What exactly is anxiety?
Anxiety is the worry or fear about what hasn't happened yet. It manifests itself in increased heart rate, increased muscle tension, turning off the thought centers in your head. All of this is called the "fight or flight syndrome". When you are standing over that little white ball and all you can think about is the lake off to the right, you have anxiety. When notice the lake and then it disappears from your mind because all you can see is your ball sitting in the middle of the fairway out about 265, you don't have anxiety.

You must learn, through practice, just as you practice the mechanics of the golf swing, to see what is GOOD out there and not what is BAD. Your subconscious cannot tell the difference between what is real and what is vividly imagined. It will do WHATEVER IT CAN to make what you "see" come true. If you see success and TRUST YOURSELF, you will succeed. If you see your ball going in the water, and it is a real image in your head, I don't care what swing thought you have, your subconscious is going to say "What PhillyGolf wants is to have his ball splash just about THERE" and it's going there, my friend.

Practice visualizing the outcome you want and ignoring, not even given a passing credence, to the outcome you don't want. One of the things that helps me a lot is to look at whomever I am playing with and say "Ok, this is starting out at that tree on the right of the fairway and drawing back into the middle." For me vocalizing what I want makes it more "real" to me and makes it easier to do. Then I just go hit the shot.

Does it work all the time ? No, does it work more often than not YES. Is it a LOT better than saying "Deal Lord, don't let me hit it in the water?" YES IT IS.

Training your golf brain is just as important as training your golf muscles. If you envision success rather than failure you will succeed more often than fail, and then you will succeed more often because it becomes easier to envision success, because you have already done so successfully. It's called builiding confidence.

Just as when I stand over a 4 foot putt, regardless of the "need" to sink it. The idea that I might miss NEVER crosses my mind. Do I make every 4 footer I ever stand over? I don't remember ever having missed one THAT IS THE KEY.

Hope this helps,

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Old 01-11-2006, 03:02 PM
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Speaking of anxiety - what sort of mechanisms do you employ to control it? I'm of the opinion that it cannot be suppressed, but it can be managed.
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Old 01-11-2006, 05:58 PM
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Agreed.

It's an involuntary physical response to something wrong, or something your brain perceives as wrong.

It's there to protect you basically....I think your brain puts your body on edge so you're ready to react.

We need Carey in here...
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Old 01-11-2006, 06:41 PM
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suppression and management
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Speaking of anxiety - what sort of mechanisms do you employ to control it? I'm of the opinion that it cannot be suppressed, but it can be managed.
I don't think you can eliminate anxiety, because, in the final analysis, it means you CARE about what's happening. What you can do is manage it. FIRST you have to admit that it's there. That is harder for some people to do than you might think.

Second, you CAN control your autonomic reflexes (those things like breathing and heart rate) It takes practice, primarily visualization and association work which can be taught (I can go into extreme detail if someone wants). When you SMILE, your face is not tense, it is relaxed. Smiling helps, and the only thing that we do that has been proven to break a state of tension in our bodies is to laugh. I don't think the "what's the worst thing that could possibly happen here" question/method works particularly well. I think the "OK, I am UPTIGHT about this, now let's relax, consciously, relax" works much better.

In a former life, when married to the Evil Princess, I was a road musician, and would get physically ill before every performance. It just showed I CARED. It is not unnatural to feel anxious about something. But how you handle it is to recognize it, and then control what your body is doing with the anxiety, and it will go away.

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Old 01-13-2006, 03:57 AM
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All,
With all due respect....

Does not one of you feel that anxiety can be reversed?

Just curious.

My next post will be elaborate - but first, please, think about anxiety...how it is acquired....


Please.
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Old 01-17-2006, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Fred Brattain
Second, you CAN control your autonomic reflexes (those things like breathing and heart rate) It takes practice, primarily visualization and association work which can be taught (I can go into extreme detail if someone wants).
Could you go into detai on that Fred?? I won't obligate you to EXTREME detail as you said.....nonono sir(ee-Bob).....

...MEGA detail will be good enough!!!!
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Old 01-11-2006, 10:34 AM
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Fred

Help is on it's way just keep your knees packet in ice. Keep your Back very very loose and your mind in your hands. Before you know it you will be hitting ropes! And I do mean ropes Your Golf Stroke will appear right before your eyes like a little fairy taie Sprinkling Fairy dust on you. I know this because I played with you and I was watching your golf stroke. A Better way to say it is I was studing you golf swing. With the Ailing aliments that you have. I must say shooting 39 on the front and another ?? on the back nine. Your realliy not to far away. From passing the PAT those young guns will be saying who is that Guy He hits it like those TGMER over on that Lynn Blake Golf website. WOW If, I may say so self say you are a good canidate for a HITTER! Maybe a (4 barrel hitter)Only a few have sucucced. Trust me, our paths will cross again in Riverside County area. Pactice your short shots and keep loading your club then give it the old Ben Doyle style Put a quarter between you buns and when someone ask for change bust it out. two dimes and a nickle ( Ben Hogan did that too) Give it the old whallop. Ball gets the message and your passing the PAT with 72/72 Then the PAT is out of the way
Ball Turf is out and No I did not need this post for number XXX

See you at TCI or Eagle Glen buzz me so I can watch.

Ball Turf Out!
You are too good to me, my friend, thank you for the encouragement. Hopefully the verdamt book will start to make sense to me soon. I am FRUSTRATED right now because I am hitting it really well about 20% of the time and I don't FEEL the difference when I don't hit it well. If I can just get to the point where, when I hit a bad shot, or top it 20 yards, I KNOW what the difference is, then I can improve. That is what works for me and I am fighting that right now.

Walk In Beauty, we will cross paths again,

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