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Old 01-18-2006, 07:15 AM
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There must always be a definite Accumulator #3 'Overtaking' Action unless...

Accumulator #3 has been Zeroed out.

In which case, the Left Arm and Clubshaft are already In Line.

Hence, there can be no 'seeking to maintain the In Line condition' characteristic of the #3 Accumulator action.
I understand that this is the case when #3 accumulator is zeroed out - no travel, only clubface action.
I was just trying to emphasise the point that if a #3 accumulator angle makes the mandatory right arm wedge flying wedge improper, why would Homer have us use any accumulator #3 angle in the first place?

I thought the 'in line' requirement was just that of the left arm flying wedge (vertical plane), so, with or without #3 accumulator, we are always in line as long as we have a flat left wrist. If 'inline' meant zero #3 accumulator then the left arm would be on plane.

Also, I thought the 'overtaking' action that Homer described was the feel of the clubhead overtaking the hands due to release rotation whenever a #3 accumulator angle is employed. It is not actually overtaking, it just has a longer distance to travel when the #3 angle is large (large pulley). Please correct me if I am wrong

So, does anybody know why anyone would incorporate a #3 accumulator angle when swinging if a snap release and a small pulley provides maximum power? Shouldn't this angle be avoided?

And, when hitting, is this angle beneficial in some way? Should it be incorporated into all hitting procedures?

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Old 01-18-2006, 10:51 AM
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...if a #3 accumulator angle makes the mandatory right arm wedge flying wedge improper, why would Homer have us use any accumulator #3 angle in the first place?
It does not.
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Old 01-18-2006, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by bobbyj

So, does anybody know why anyone would incorporate a #3 accumulator angle when swinging if a snap release and a small pulley provides maximum power? Shouldn't this angle be avoided?

And, when hitting, is this angle beneficial in some way? Should it be incorporated into all hitting procedures?
The Swinger greatly increases the Lag and produces a sharper, smoother Release Motion by bringing the #3 Accumulator into Impact with a Turned Left Wrist (not Vertical). This is the Left Hand Karate Chop -- palm down to the Plane -- through the Line of Sight to the Ball before the Release Trigger. The simultaneous Right Hand Karate Chop brings the Turned Right Hand (with its palm up to the Plane) through the Line of Sight to the Ball before Triggering.

Though the Hitter does not normally employ the Snap Roll into Impact (Release Swivel), he nevertheless benefits from the Overtaking Action of the #3 Accumulator. Accordingly, as you suggest, he should incorporate it into those Strokes requiring more than minimal Power.
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Old 01-18-2006, 06:45 PM
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So zero #3 accumulator, although producing maximum clubhead speed, can produce erratic release rhythm, decrease clubhead lag pressure and therefore produce less consistant results?

Too much #3 accumulator will create an early release, and although having increased lag and rhythm control, will reduce clubhead speed?

If the above is correct, would the best compromise be small #3 accumulator angle when hitting and swinging?
When hitting, would a larger #3 accumulator be beneficial because of the angled hinging nature of the stroke? i.e smaller amount of clubhead travel at release can be increased by a larger angle?

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Old 01-18-2006, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by bobbyj

So zero #3 accumulator, although producing maximum clubhead speed, can produce erratic release rhythm, decrease clubhead lag pressure and therefore produce less consistant results?

Too much #3 accumulator will create an early release, and although having increased lag and rhythm control, will reduce clubhead speed?

If the above is correct, would the best compromise be small #3 accumulator angle when hitting and swinging?
When hitting, would a larger #3 accumulator be beneficial because of the angled hinging nature of the stroke? i.e smaller amount of clubhead travel at release can be increased by a larger angle?
1. Zero #3 Accumulator produces minimum Clubhead Speed; can and should be executed with perfect Rhythm; with any degree of Lag Pressure from light to heavy; and properly executed will produce consistent results. In other words, exactly the opposite of everything you said. But we're gettin' there!

2. An increased #3 Accumulator (from the Level condition of the Left Wrist) will require an earlier Release, but only slightly earlier. This can be offset with a higher Handspeed. All degrees of Accumulator #3 (from Zero to Maximum) should be executed with perfect Rhythm, i.e., the Hands and Club should move at the identical Angular Speed (RPM). This will happen when you keep your Left Wrist Flat through Impact.

3. Hitters and Swingers can use the same amount of #3 Accumulator Angle. Just grip the Club slightly under the heel pad of the Left Hand (not way down deep in the fingers) and you've got it.
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Old 01-18-2006, 07:36 PM
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And minimizing the #3 Angle serves only to enable the player to Delay longer the Release (and thus increase Clubhead Speed for any given Handspeed per 2-M-2-4).
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Zero #3 Accumulator produces minimum Clubhead Speed; can and should be executed with perfect Rhythm; with any degree of Lag Pressure from light to heavy; and properly executed will produce consistent results. In other words, exactly the opposite of everything you said. But we're gettin' there!

Is it me or does this look like a contradiction?


Yoda, your post #18 made sense to me - post #20 point 1 has overloaded my incubator. Too many eggs!

I think that the car in front is an oncoming bus!

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Old 01-18-2006, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by bobbyj
Is it me or does this look like a contradiction?


Yoda, your post #18 made sense to me - post #20 point 1 has overloaded my incubator. Too many eggs!

I think that the car in front is an oncoming bus!

Bobby J
Read and study the second point in post #20.
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Old 01-18-2006, 08:22 PM
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Bringing the #3 Accumulator into Impact with a Turned Left Wrist (not Vertical) greatly increases the Lag and produces a sharper, smoother Release Motion.

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1. Zero #3 Accumulator produces minimum Clubhead Speed; can and should be executed with perfect Rhythm; with any degree of Lag Pressure from light to heavy; and properly executed will produce consistent results. In other words, exactly the opposite of everything you said. But we're gettin' there!
I know there isn't a contradiction here but these statements seem slightly at odds with each other to me.

The first quote I think I understand - the longer the release travel, the greater the clubhead lag time during release, the smoother the release motion.
So, it would make sense that the less release travel (zero/min #3), the less clubhead lag time during release, the quicker the release motion.

Wouldn't the quicker release (small pulley, min #3), due to its fleeting nature, be more erratic, harder to time and therefore produce less consistant results in the long term than the longer release?


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Old 01-18-2006, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by tongzilla
Read and study the second point in post #20.

I have no problem with this point in itself. But with this new increased handspeed and the short quick release of minimum #3 accumulator, all other things being equal, the ball will go further. 6-N-0.
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Old 01-19-2006, 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by bobbyj
Is it me or does this look like a contradiction?


Yoda, your post #18 made sense to me - post #20 point 1 has overloaded my incubator. Too many eggs!

I think that the car in front is an oncoming bus!

Bobby J
Lynn,
I think Bobby brings up a valid point...

Can you explain further how minimizing accumulator #3 allows (or serves) the player to delay release?

I suspect you mean minimal accumlator #3 allows the player to reelase later without having to allow for accumulator #3....

However, I dont get it. More later....dont want to [ass-ume] too much.

Thanks!
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