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Old 02-17-2006, 05:21 AM
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Byron Nelson -- the original Mr. One Piece -- started his Stroke from the Swinger's Classic Adjusted Address Position. In other words, his Left Wrist was Bent and his Right Wrist was Flat. As he moved away from the Ball, both Wrists retained their respective alignments well into the Backstroke. That is the 'One Piece.' Add a little flexibility of 'lag and drag' and, on video, Byron Nelson clearly evidences the 'Lagging Clubhead Takeaway' of Homer Kelley's as yet unpublished seventh edition.
Wasn't Byron a Hitter? Or am I thinking of someone else...
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Old 02-17-2006, 12:17 PM
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IMHO, to properly answer this question, the phrase "one piece take-away" must be defined precisely. (1) Clearly, because of the complex nature of the joints etc of the human body, a "one piece take-away" is not possible! (2) The disparity in what the great swingers of golf have written about their take-away/swing is imbedded in the "feel vs reality" struggle. (3) After all is said and done, the one piece take-away is perhaps a blending of the arms/club motion & the body rotation during the initial part of the swing. (4) This blending can be accomplished & therefore felt many ways! [see (2) above] (5) I have worked with Ballard & he constantly states that the folding of the right arm in the take-away sets the left wrist/club. His folding of the right arm may just be later than in other methods, which is OK. (6) Ballard also imparts this feel statement, "right forearm & left knee takeaway". Perhaps the great teachers of the golf swing are not as far apart as one may think! (7) Perhaps it is stated best by saying the club should not be swung independent of body motion!! One follows the other, which is FELT differently by the great swingers! sky72
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Old 02-17-2006, 01:19 PM
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Byron Nelson's Swingin' Video
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Wasn't Byron a Hitter? Or am I thinking of someone else...
Byron Nelson was definitely a Swinger. His Stroke is wonderfully captured in the video Byron Nelson's Timeless Golf Lessons produced by HPG Video. It features Byron in his prime with both irons and woods. This isn't a collection of grainy tournament clips; instead, it is footage recorded especially for a golf instruction series that played in movie theaters at the time. The slow motion sequences are wonderful studies, and Byron himself does voice-over analysis. The video deserves a place in every golfer's collection.
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Old 02-17-2006, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoda
Byron Nelson was definitely a Swinger. His Stroke is wonderfully captured in the video Byron Nelson's Timeless Golf Lessons produced by HPG Video. It features Byron in his prime with both irons and woods. This isn't a collection of grainy tournament clips; instead, it is footage recorded especially for a golf instruction series that played in movie theaters at the time. The slow motion sequences are wonderful studies, and Byron himself does voice-over analysis. The video deserves a place in every golfer's collection.
Thanks for the reference. I will definately try to get a copy of that video.
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Leo - you may also enjoy his book, which has a collection of very nice photos - nearly every other page is a full size photo.
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Byron's First Book
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Leo - you may also enjoy his book, which has a collection of very nice photos - nearly every other page is a full size photo.
That book is Winning Golf, 1946. It is not the much more recent (but still thirty years old!) Shape Your Swing the Modern Way, 1976. Although a worthwhile purchase, the latter does not have the photographs EdZ has referenced.
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That book is Winning Golf, 1946. It is not the much more recent (but still thirty years old!) Shape Your Swing the Modern Way, 1976. Although a worthwhile purchase, the latter does not have the photographs EdZ has referenced.
I have often wondered why Byron Nelson's swing doesn't garner the same amount of respect as Hogan, Nicklaus, Watson etc. His alignments are as pure as pure can get. I have a book with the famous Hogan Sequence that also contains Mr. Nelson's move. I actually prefer Mr. Nelson's alignments. There is no arguing his resume either.

Was his ball striking prowess equal to that of The Hawk and Lee Buck?

I'll be happy to scan what I have and post if there are no issues . . . Martee!!!!!!

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I have often wondered why Byron Nelson's swing doesn't garner the same amount of respect as Hogan, Nicklaus, Watson etc. His alignments are as pure as pure can get. I have a book with the famous Hogan Sequence that also contains Mr. Nelson's move. I actually prefer Mr. Nelson's alignments. There is no arguing his resume either.

Was his ball striking prowess equal to that of The Hawk and Lee Buck?

I'll be happy to scan what I have and post if there are no issues . . . Martee!!!!!!

Thanks!

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Ken Venturi played alot of golf with both Nelson and Hogan. Venturi (who was taught by Nelson)had tremendous respect for both, but believed Nelson was the better ball striker. He believed that Hogan was the best at managing the course.
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lol nice pic 12 piece....

mmmm chicken......

How many sittings would a bucket like that cover?

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BTW....now that we're chattin about a measily one-piece takeaway maybe you can fill us in on the 12-piece takeaway...????

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That book is Winning Golf, 1946. It is not the much more recent (but still thirty years old!) Shape Your Swing the Modern Way, 1976. Although a worthwhile purchase, the latter does not have the photographs EdZ has referenced.
You guys know your stuff. That's one of the advantages of being 800 years old. Thanks Ed and Yoda! (the age reference was to Yoda...obviously)
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