OK here's the results of my homework, hope i got this right
Pic 1 is my normal grip, no wrist turn = hammer square
Pic 2 is my normal grip, left wrist turned = hammer points way left
Pic 3 is "weak" grip, wrist turned = hammer square
What this is telling me is that if I have my current grip + left wrist rotation then everythings going left into the bushes?
Woo!!!!! This is fantastic!!!! As you can see pictures don't tell no lies!!!! If your LEFT HAND IS TURNED ON THE GRIP you DO NOT WANT TO ROLL!!!
With your Turned grip to hit the wall square you COCK AND UNCOCK ONLY. But with the vertical grip YOU HAVE TO ROLL TO HIT THE WALL SQUARE.
Thanks for taking these pics man! The Golfing Machine should come with a video. Very nice!
Originally Posted by bergsey
Homework sounds interesting !!
This is all starting to make sense... on my good shots i don't feel the release at all (or feel that i've had to conciously do anything to square the face)
YES!!! YES!!!! YES!!!!
This is the FEEL of ANGLED HINGING!!! Which is a MUST with your grip my friend from down-under. Check this quote out . . .
,“Basic Hinging” has the following characteristics of appearance and feel. Between the “Full Roll” of Horizontal Hinging and the “No Roll” of Vertical Hinging, Angled Hinging takes on a “Half Roll” motion. While Horizontal Hinging retains the “Feel” of a “Roll”, Angled Hinging takes on a “No Roll” Feel and Vertical Hinging is executed as a “Reverse Roll”.
This is the FEEL of ANGLED HINGING!!! Which is a MUST with your grip my friend from down-under. Check this quote out . . .
Can I have angled hinging and still hit a draw? as i mentioned earlier on i have pretty much never faded the ball, straight or slight draw is my "good" shot. The odd fade i have hit (unintentionally) has been with the very short irons e.g. PW
I thought that angled hinging = fade, although perhaps my angled hinge might be closer to a horizontal one?
Not sure whether it makes much difference but others have mentioned my clubface looking very "shut" at the top, not sure if this is a result of the grip or some manipulation along the way.... i'll try and borrow a camera at some point and put a sequence up...
Can I have angled hinging and still hit a draw? as i mentioned earlier on i have pretty much never faded the ball, straight or slight draw is my "good" shot. The odd fade i have hit (unintentionally) has been with the very short irons e.g. PW
I thought that angled hinging = fade, although perhaps my angled hinge might be closer to a horizontal one?
Not sure whether it makes much difference but others have mentioned my clubface looking very "shut" at the top, not sure if this is a result of the grip or some manipulation along the way.... i'll try and borrow a camera at some point and put a sequence up...
B . . . You can hit a draw or a cut with ANY Hinge Action . . .
2-J-1 IMPACT ALIGNMENTS . . .Except with a Cut Shot procedure, the clubface is properly soled behind the ball when the leadingedge is slightly "open." The longer the shot the more Open the Clubface.
The Clubface must be exactly square to the Line of Flight ONLY at the point of Separation. So if the EXECUTION of the Stroke is geometrically correct, a square face at pre-impact can result in a Line of Flight to the left, or "inside" of the intended Line - a Pulled Shot. Or, if this error of alignment is great enough, it will result in a Hooked Shot.
and
7-2 GRIP TYPES . . . For the “True” Hitter, Moving the Ball back (Hook alignment) or forward (Slice alignment) – always with the Clubface aligned to the Target Line per 2-J-1 – gives straightaway initial direction (2-B). Opening the Clubface (Slice Grip) or Closing the Clubface (Hook Grip) at your normal Impact Fix, produces Pushed Slices and Pulled Hooks and so require a compensating Target Line adjustment to make it square to the changed Clubface alignment.
For the “True” Swinger, “Opening” the Plane Line (10-5-D) until it is square to the Clubface alignment at the new “Aft” location, will produce a “Fade.” With the Ball moved Forward, “Closing” the Plane Line (10-5-E) square to the Clubface alignment at the new location, will produce a “Draw.” The Curve of the their paths, after the straightaway initial direction, will be proportional to the divergence of the Plane and Target Lines. Herein, “Path” terms (Ball Path etc.) refer to total Ball behavior, whether or not it remains straightaway. “Line” terms (“Target Line” etc.) refer to the straightaway direction of Aim
Went and had another lesson earlier in the week and got my grip checked. My coach suggested weakening a bit but leaving the thumb on the right hand side of the shaft.
From this...
To this.....
Everything since then is either a push slice or almost shank !
Do i need to conciously try and close the face now as opposed to my previous "strong grip"?
I have a square or closed clubface all the way from the top, so at separation I hold my left wrist (too much) and not really "swivel", I feel that if I roll my left wrist it's going to close the clubface during Impact/separation... hello Pull/Hook!
Is it a mechanical thing or just mentally? Why am I not able to get this Horizonal Hinge especially with my driver,
where I need to fully uncock and roll the Left Wrist the most!
Look at my LEFT WRIST at Impact\separation and after, it almost reverse roll! ala Zack Johnson (almost vertical hinged)
I'm tired from this Angled hinge with the driver, it feels unnatural holding the left wrist.
It's almost feel like a flip...
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You are executing your hinge action to the vertical wall instead of the horizontal floor. The wrist needs to be vertical, or perpendicular to the corresponding plane. A Horizontal Hinge (complete with roll and swivel ) is vertical- 90 degrees- to the ground. Your vertical hinge is vertical or perpendicular- 90 degrees to a vertical wall.
Trace a straight plane line and be ready to roll along it through impact. Swivel finished. Nice swing. Just practice a Horizontal Hinge.
Woo!!!!! This is fantastic!!!! As you can see pictures don't tell no lies!!!! If your LEFT HAND IS TURNED ON THE GRIP you DO NOT WANT TO ROLL!!!
With your Turned grip to hit the wall square you COCK AND UNCOCK ONLY. But with the vertical grip YOU HAVE TO ROLL TO HIT THE WALL SQUARE.
Thanks for taking these pics man! The Golfing Machine should come with a video. Very nice!
YES!!! YES!!!! YES!!!!
This is the FEEL of ANGLED HINGING!!! Which is a MUST with your grip my friend from down-under. Check this quote out . . .
,“Basic Hinging” has the following characteristics of appearance and feel. Between the “Full Roll” of Horizontal Hinging and the “No Roll” of Vertical Hinging, Angled Hinging takes on a “Half Roll” motion. While Horizontal Hinging retains the “Feel” of a “Roll”, Angled Hinging takes on a “No Roll” Feel and Vertical Hinging is executed as a “Reverse Roll”.
I really wish the pictures in this post still showed up!
So, breaking this down into simple terms, if you weaken your left hand grip by turning it to the left the more you will have to roll your hands into a horizontal hinge. If this is done correctly it produces more power but timing is a trade off? If you have a stronger left hand grip then it will require a angled hinge, or if you are like me you get it shut then it promotes a hold off vertical hinge?
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