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Old 05-03-2006, 10:41 AM
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I had that very same thought when looking at the Hay books. He was ahead of his time for sure and some ideas are very, very close without using the same terminology. My wife thinks that great minds must think alike or better yet "great minds come to the same conclusions, they must be true".

I find it interesting that both were putting out info at about the same time frames (1979-1980s). I think Hay may have been earlier with 1979 but someone who knows Homer better may know if he beat him to the punch.

Any way you put it both are great books for TGM folks, add it to Homer's for a complete set.

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I find it interesting that both were putting out info at about the same time frames (1979-1980s). I think Hay may have been earlier with 1979 but someone who knows Homer better may know if he beat him to the punch.
The first edition of The Golfing Machine was published in 1969, ten years earlier than the 1979 date you reference for Hay's work.
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Guess that settles the debate of the chicken or the egg. Looks like Hay owes Homer some money (or maybe some credit). Don't know but my boss here swears Homer and Hay owe a bunch to Jones and Hogan too. Now we are going back.

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Lots of good reads mentioned here already. I like the Harvey Penick books. I think he was a wise gentleman and I would loved to have known him. Someone mentioned Paul Bertholy. Doug Ferreri, who worked with Paul Bertholy, has a book out titled "Golf Swing Construction 101, The Bertholy Method Revisited". Lots of good stuff in there, imo, and I particularly like the "golden exercise" in it. I think the main purpose of the "golden exercise" is to get to the 6/100 position effectively. Great thread. Some of these I have and others I don't but probably should have. Actually, I'm still debating whether to get TGM yet. I don't want to freak myself out when I'm just getting started here, lol.
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Guess that settles the debate of the chicken or the egg. Looks like Hay owes Homer some money (or maybe some credit). Don't know but my boss here swears Homer and Hay owe a bunch to Jones and Hogan too. Now we are going back.
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Kevin,

There is more than a grain of truth in that - and a few others, very likely!

However, my Chicken/Egg reference was only "tongue in cheek" as it 'aint rocket science to look in a book and see when it was first published.
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You are right about that.......wrote before looking. Felt kind of stupid afterwards but got over it. Still like both quite a bit. Waiting for the new edition of the yellow book and can't wait to see what has changed (if any) but plan to keep my current edition handy with my notes from here.

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