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Old 06-15-2006, 05:41 AM
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Procedure for walking, Hand Controlled Pivot.
Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
I think we "bring the world to ourselves" mostly via our hands and eyes (feet too I guess). But when people walk their hands "swing." When they run their hands come up more to their chest and "pump." So I don't know if we got the chicken egg type thing going or what. But in walking (locomtion) our intention is to MOVE SOMEWHERE.
Actually, a Procedure involves moving the body part that is in contact with the object we’re trying to move. In the case for walking, we are moving the Earth (but because the mass of the Earth is so much larger than the mass of a person, the Earth doesn’t budge – but we do!) with our feet (the contact point).
So, the Procedure for walking can be summed up as -- starting from both feet level, move your right foot forwards, push off the ground with your right foot, then move your other foot in front of your right foot and push off.
If you do this very slowly, you will not have this split second of being "off-balance" like how all normal people walk. It's almost like you're stomping on the ground with one foot, anchoring into the ground, then stomping the ground with your other foot. Not very elegant, and you won't walk very fast. Toddlers walk like that; they take one step at a time. Now, if you want to walk faster, your Procedure will stay the same, but now you learn to walk more like a normal person. You learn (subconsciously thank God!) how to balance yourself in between steps so you don't have to take "one step at a time". You learn to move one foot in front of the other faster. You learn to take bigger steps. You learn to push off harder, and you feel more pressure on your feet as you take each step (Pressure Points / Lag Pressure). But are you focusing on how your torso is twisting or how your arms are swinging? No. And us Machine Heads know that Balance belongs to Zone #1: The Pivot. And movement of the swinging arms helps us to balance too.

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So I reckon if you move you hands or intend to move your hands in a certain manner you as a result would produce more "pivot lag?" Or "Swinging from the Feet" produces the maximum radius and as a result reduces inevitable deceleration . . . do our hands have anything to do with that?
The fact is that if you want to make an athletic and dynamic motion through the ball (i.e. generating your maximum clubhead speed), you must begin the Downstroke Train with your feet, then your knees, then your hips, etc. You hands have the intention of starting down – i.e. you attempt to start down with your hands. But it won’t let itself start down unless it has received sufficient Lag Pressure. And it won’t get that Lag Pressure unless you start down with your feet.
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Old 06-15-2006, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by tongzilla
Actually, a Procedure involves moving the body part that is in contact with the object we’re trying to move. In the case for walking, we are moving the Earth (but because the mass of the Earth is so much larger than the mass of a person, the Earth doesn’t budge – but we do!) with our feet (the contact point).
So, the Procedure for walking can be summed up as -- starting from both feet level, move your right foot forwards, push off the ground with your right foot, then move your other foot in front of your right foot and push off.
If you do this very slowly, you will not have this split second of being "off-balance" like how all normal people walk. It's almost like you're stomping on the ground with one foot, anchoring into the ground, then stomping the ground with your other foot. Not very elegant, and you won't walk very fast. Toddlers walk like that; they take one step at a time. Now, if you want to walk faster, your Procedure will stay the same, but now you learn to walk more like a normal person. You learn (subconsciously thank God!) how to balance yourself in between steps so you don't have to take "one step at a time". You learn to move one foot in front of the other faster. You learn to take bigger steps. You learn to push off harder, and you feel more pressure on your feet as you take each step (Pressure Points / Lag Pressure). But are you focusing on how your torso is twisting or how your arms are swinging? No. And us Machine Heads know that Balance belongs to Zone #1: The Pivot. And movement of the swinging arms helps us to balance too.


The fact is that if you want to make an athletic and dynamic motion through the ball (i.e. generating your maximum clubhead speed), you must begin the Downstroke Train with your feet, then your knees, then your hips, etc. You hands have the intention of starting down – i.e. you attempt to start down with your hands. But it won’t let itself start down unless it has received sufficient Lag Pressure. And it won’t get that Lag Pressure unless you start down with your feet.
Nice post. How about the integration of the arms and hands into walking and running. Someone that runs with their arms straight down at their side has no chance.

Keep in mind that when a baby learns to walk . . . he first learns to CRAWL . . . and thus the movement of the hands and feet are coordinated. I don't know the connection but I got two kids and people always have said that it is better for them to crawl first rather pulling up cruising and skipping crawling all together. So I think the hands are very much integral to the process of walking and running.

There's probably stuff written on this . . . I'll check it out.

Good post though Boss.
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The fundamental 'root' of learning either (walking or swinging a club) is balance.

Learn balance, guided by your feet and hands.

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