What's causing my toe-deep divots?

[birdie_man]

Ur irons fitted?

+ check your balance (should be more on heels)

+ U a slicer?

[Worknplay9]

Birdie,
Irons are standard; not fitted.
Not a slicer, but a puller (over the top).
Tommy

[drewitgolf]

WP9,

Divots go left toward the shortstop?

Here is a problem. Going to a more upright lie angle will take away the toe deep divots, but generally cause you to hit it further left. Not something I am sure you want to do.

Change your Impact alignments. Your Right Forearm is most likely too high at Impact and your Wrists are fully Uncocked at Impact rather than Level.

Maybe you could provide a little more information on your stroke?

[Bagger Lance]

Change your Impact alignments. Your Right Forearm is most likely too high at Impact and your Wrists are fully Uncocked at Impact rather than Level.

Hi Drew

Can you shed some light on how someone might go about correcting the above?
Your analysis is really good. This is very common by the way.

What if someone has a steep sweep release, but otherwise on plane?

Thanks!

Bagger

[Worknplay9]

Drewitgolf,
I think you nailed it. My right forearm IS too high at impact, (as well as the wrists uncocked). So, should I practice impact fix, with a lower right forearm, that is, address, impact fix, address, impact fix, etc?
Tommy

[drewitgolf]

Having your Left Wrist Uncocked at Impact will lead to Clubhead Thowaway and toe deep divots. When the golfer, during Release and Impact, continues to Uncock the Left Wrist past the Level condition (4-B-1) rather then using the roll of the Hand, Level Left Wrist and #3 Accumulator with it’s Rhythm thru Impact to Follow-Through (2-P), we are looking at Steering (3-F-7-A); a Horizontal Wrist Motion, and a Bent Left Wrist. So the Left Wrist is not only Bent (which makes the ball go left), but also Uncocked giving excessive toe down divots and a nice “soft” Impact. Centrifugal Acceleration is lost.

Educated Hands understand that the Perpendicular (Vertical) Left Wrist Uncocking Motion is a Clubhead Motion and the Roll is a Hand Motion whether Simultaneous (Hitting) or Sequenced (Swinging) controls the Clubface. Both must be differentiated. Look at the picture of the Golfer’s Flail in 2-K#4 and #5. Let it incubate into the coconut. In fact, I built my own Flail per Yoda’s recommendation. It does not allow Horizontal Wrist Motion. Mine is bolted so that the swingle (club) can not go past the Level condition. Per 4-D-0, when the Wrist Motion throws the Clubface at the ball there will be Clubhead Throwaway (unless using 10-2-D). Having a fully Uncocked Left Wrist at Impact also may zero out the #3 Accumulator giving up almost all Transfer Power.

For the Right Forearm Flying Wedge and its Level Wrist to be on Plane the Right Elbow must be bent and on Plane (not run out of Right Arm). We are then able to trace our Plane Line with our Right Forearm and #3 Pressure Point. All are a by-product of the Right Shoulder being Plane due to proper Waist Bend, Hip Shift; Axis Tilt. All return to their Impact Fix location. If the Right Elbow is straight and high and the Right Shoulder is off Plane at this point, all bets are off.

[12 piece bucket]

Having your Left Wrist Uncocked at Impact will lead to Clubhead Thowaway and toe deep divots. When the golfer, during Release and Impact, continues to Uncock the Left Wrist past the Level condition (4-B-1) rather then using the roll of the Hand, Level Left Wrist and #3 Accumulator with it’s Rhythm thru Impact to Follow-Through (2-P), we are looking at Steering (3-F-7-A); a Horizontal Wrist Motion, and a Bent Left Wrist. So the Left Wrist is not only Bent (which makes the ball go left), but also Uncocked giving excessive toe down divots and a nice “soft” Impact. Centrifugal Acceleration is lost.

Educated Hands understand that the Perpendicular (Vertical) Left Wrist Uncocking Motion is a Clubhead Motion and the Roll is a Hand Motion whether Simultaneous (Hitting) or Sequenced (Swinging) controls the Clubface. Both must be differentiated. Look at the picture of the Golfer’s Flail in 2-K#4 and #5. Let it incubate into the coconut. In fact, I built my own Flail per Yoda’s recommendation. It does not allow Horizontal Wrist Motion. Mine is bolted so that the swingle (club) can not go past the Level condition. Per 4-D-0, when the Wrist Motion throws the Clubface at the ball there will be Clubhead Throwaway (unless using 10-2-D). Having a fully Uncocked Left Wrist at Impact also may zero out the #3 Accumulator giving up almost all Transfer Power.

For the Right Forearm Flying Wedge and its Level Wrist to be on Plane the Right Elbow must be bent and on Plane (not run out of Right Arm). We are then able to trace our Plane Line with our Right Forearm and #3 Pressure Point. All are a by-product of the Right Shoulder being Plane due to proper Waist Bend, Hip Shift; Axis Tilt. All return to their Impact Fix location. If the Right Elbow is straight and high and the Right Shoulder is off Plane at this point, all bets are off.

This is strong as train smoke!

Norrin Radd . . . You would however advise a FULLY UNCOCKED WRIST AFTER IMPACT NO?

[golfgnome]

WP9,

Divots go left toward the shortstop?

Here is a problem. Going to a more upright lie angle will take away the toe deep divots, but generally cause you to hit it further left. Not something I am sure you want to do.

Change your Impact alignments. Your Right Forearm is most likely too high at Impact and your Wrists are fully Uncocked at Impact rather than Level.

Maybe you could provide a little more information on your stroke?

Initially this is true. However, This would also force the player to start swinging down plane (dowward, outward, and forward) to correct the high right forearm. The question becomes, does the player come over plane to make the ball go straight or because that is what they think they should do?
I would try a more upright lie angle and make the ball go straight. Check the lie angle again and if the marks are good and the ball goes straight then you have a winner.

[drewitgolf]

I would try a more upright lie angle and make the ball go straight. Check the lie angle again and if the marks are good and the ball goes straight then you have a winner.

Golfgnome,

Correct me if I am wrong. Are you suggesting that the player should fit their motion to the club, rather then have the club fit their motion?

All to often when the ball goes left (from a more upright lie angle or a Bent Left Wrist), the Computer will aim the Machine further and further to the right to correct the ball flight, they won't change their Impact Alignments.

All to often, players are fitted for Clubhead Throwaway (I have fitted people for Throwaway; those are the people who won't practice or change their motion, but want to hit it straight $$$). Yes, it can improve their ball flight, but if they really want to improve their game, they will base their motion on the Laws of Science.

Improving their Zone #3, six Impact Alignments (3-F-5) before changing the lie angle of the club should save them time while improving their Geometry (they may not even need to change their lie angle to begin with). After visually checking their motion to see if they have sound Impact, then they should be fitted for lie, length, grip size, shaft flex..., not before IMO.

[Worknplay9]

Drewitgolf,
That is awesome stuff. I'm off and running to the mirror, and then the range. Thanks.
Tommy