These thoughts from Johnny Miller on ball position relate to swing low point and appear logical.
"The correct ball position at address is another important fundamental. My key here is to use the left shoulder, not the feet, as a reference point for where to play the ball. Unless you’re trying to hit an intentionally high or low shot, the ball should always be played off the middle of your left deltoid, right about where the muscle attaches to the bone. This allows you to use the best part of your swing arc, with your left arm returning to impact fully extended from the shoulder, and the right arm trailing and supplying the power.
Why not use the left heel as a guide for ball position? The feet are relative. If you have a very wide stance, playing the ball off the left heel will put the ball too far ahead of your shoulders. If you have a very narrow stance, playing the ball off the left heel will put the ball too far back; playing the ball off your left shoulder gives you a constant reference to work from."
Is this from Miller's book? He wrote one in the 70's. Never seen it.
However, his videos are VERY good. If you don't have 'em, get 'em. If you don't like the instruction you'll at least dig seeing JM bust it in sooopa-dooopa slow mo'.
Is this from Miller's book? He wrote one in the 70's. Never seen it.
However, his videos are VERY good. If you don't have 'em, get 'em. If you don't like the instruction you'll at least dig seeing JM bust it in sooopa-dooopa slow mo'.
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Johnny Miller knows some TGM. He learned from Ben Doyle.
The picture posted would work for a driver. With irons the ball should be further back in relation to the left shoulder(low point). This can be done by narrowing the stance, or moving the ball back, or a little of both.
Find your best way of getting correct ball position.
Ball position is a little more(much more) important for TRUE SWINGERS. With them, there is a certain spot where the club will hit the ball straight(no manipulation).
When Miller was advocating ball position relative to left shoulder, Nicklaus's " Golf My Way" suggest ball position off left heel.
Ball Relative to shoulder makes much more sense to me seeing how the TSP and elbow plane is much more connected to zone 2 mechanics.
I think trying to strike the ball is easier once it's line up with upper body and arms.
I saw JB Holmes on playing lesson hit a 300 yard drive on his knees, that pretty well blew way my consideration of Nicklaus's suggestion.
Pure(True) Swinging... An INACTIVE RIGHT ARM; and excellent and consistent RHYTHM are present with this player.
If you use the #2 Pressure Point for Lag Pressure to sense and guide the Left Arm Wedge, then ok.
But....
An inactive right triceps except for Extensor Action and the Power Package Thrusts the Right Forearm. The #3 Pressure Point utilizes the Right Forearm Flying Wedge to Sense and control acceleration. Better than using the #2 Pressure Point.
Originally Posted by dlam
I saw JB Holmes on playing lesson hit a 300 yard drive on his knees, that pretty well blew way my consideration of Nicklaus's suggestion.
Convinces me that the Pivot is not at the center of Power Generation.
The power has to come from somewhere. Either left arm, right arm or the pivot. Centripetal force and throwout can only redistribute and conserve the power that has been produced by the above mentioned.
If JB Holms was sitting on his butt, or even better, temporarily paralysed in his core, we would see how much clubhead speed he could generate without using the pivot much.
But still, since you basically have to choose between swinging your arms around the pivot or swinging the arms with the pivot, a full stroke can still be 95% pivot powered even if you get 65% of the distance without using it.
The left arm is basically useless for power generation, and certainly not by TGM standards anyway. That leaves the right arm + pivot for hitters, and pivot only for swingers. The blasting off the chest is powered by the pivot.
So, does that leave you convinced that the power comes from #4 being blasted
off of the chest?
I always look forward to your comments and answers.
Right Arm, Left Wrist, Right Hand and Left Arm. Those are Accumulators 1,2,3 and 4. Out of line conditions of the Power Package assembly. Every ball and stick Sport uses them. Moving from out-of-line to in-line releases the stored power. Consider a simple baseball throw. Doesn't the Catcher bend his arm and then straighten it to throw the ball back to the Pitcher? Bend and Straighten (out-of-line to in-line).
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7-12 PIVOT The Pivot is the utilization of multiple centers to produce a circular motion for generating Clubhead Force on an adjustable Plane. Plus the maintenance of balance throughout the weight shifts that accompany the turning and bending of the necessary for the two Line Delivery Paths. A Pivot is on superficially correct that fails to maintain alignments or allows the player to get “out of position”.
It is the massive vehicle which transports the Power Package Assembly to the launching pad and back-up support for the Hitters driving Right Arm (6-B-1). It is the massive rotor, supplying Angular Momentum for the Throw Out power transfer to the Swinger’s orbiting Left Arm (6-B-3).
In other words, Hitters use Right Triceps to move from the Bent conditions to Straight while the Swingers use CF.
Go to the Practice Range. Hit 50 balls with your 3 wood to the 100 yard green. At he end of 50 balls, what did you change most of all? The Power Package or the Pivot. Did you end up slowing a full swing or did you start using pitch shots with a standard Pivot? Which way is more successful for you?
I can't stress enough that the Left Arm does not Blast off the Chest when using the Elbow Plane. When using the Elbow Plane, the Left Arm is stuck to the Torso and is merely transportation for the Left Wrist. While the Left Arm moves strongly downward from the Top of the Stroke with the Elbow Plane, it cannot and does not produce the Awesome Power of Accumulator #4 to induce the Throwout of the Secondary Lever. Blast-off only occurs with Hands Controlled Pivot on the Turned Shoulder Plane.
If you're an Elbow Plane Swinger, you'll probably vary Pivot Speed. If you're a TSP Swinger, you'll vary the amount of out-of-line condition of the Power Package and Pressure Point Pressure and keep the Pivot under the control of the #3 Pressure Point.
Elbow Plane Swingers MUST use their Pivot to supply as much Power as Possible because they make a complete mess of the #4 Accumulator.
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